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Topic: Fender Tone Master Twin Reverb |
Jesse Cunningham
From: Oregon, USA
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Posted 27 Nov 2021 2:17 pm
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I know the Tone Master amps have been out for a while, but I just picked one up. I'm really impressed with it, especially for doubling up steel and guitar.
I made this little clip. Sorry, it's a little sloppy I was just sort of messing around to test out the DI on the Twin. The MSA is straight in to the reverb channel. The Tele is in the non-verb channel with a Walrus Ages OD and a NUX verb/delay. I'm using a Apogee Duet in to Garageband. I had the cab emulator on the #1 setting (the SM57 emulation I think)
https://youtu.be/UZ6qGAYAmm4 |
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Don Downes
From: New Hampshire, USA
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Posted 27 Nov 2021 3:10 pm
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Well, that was pretty awesome!
I'm sensing a little James Burton in that Tele solo. Also a little jealous of your steel pickin'
Nice job. _________________ "The secret to a long life is to keep breathing." |
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Larry Dering
From: Missouri, USA
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Posted 27 Nov 2021 7:58 pm
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Jesse, that was awesome. The Tonemaster sounds better on your MSA than the tele. I use mine double duty too. Where do you have the mids set for the steel? |
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Jesse Cunningham
From: Oregon, USA
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Posted 27 Nov 2021 8:31 pm
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Larry Dering wrote: |
Jesse, that was awesome. The Tonemaster sounds better on your MSA than the tele. I use mine double duty too. Where do you have the mids set for the steel? |
Thanks! I just got that Tele, the rosewood doesn’t quite have the same spank as the maple. I just left the same settings I was using for my other guitar, although I like a little darker tone with some hair on it.
For the steel I have the mids set just below 5, treble just above 5 and bass right between 4 and 5. I've also found using the low input is a little "sweeter" sound.
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Jesse Cunningham
From: Oregon, USA
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Posted 27 Nov 2021 10:31 pm
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Don Downes wrote: |
Well, that was pretty awesome!
I'm sensing a little James Burton in that Tele solo. Also a little jealous of your steel pickin'
Nice job. |
Thanks a lot Don! James Burton is a hero of mine for sure. I wish I could pull off even 1/100th of the cool stuff he does. |
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Larry Dering
From: Missouri, USA
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Posted 28 Nov 2021 5:32 am
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Jesse, many thanks for the reply. I'm also a tele guy and have both a maple and a rosewood neck telecasters. I agree on the snappy tone but my preference was always rosewood necks. Have you done the reverb update? It seriously improved the range of usable reverb on 2nd channel. I also use the low input for steel. Post some more when you get it dialed in. What pickup is in your MSA? |
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Jesse Cunningham
From: Oregon, USA
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Posted 28 Nov 2021 8:10 am
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Larry Dering wrote: |
Jesse, many thanks for the reply. I'm also a tele guy and have both a maple and a rosewood neck telecasters. I agree on the snappy tone but my preference was always rosewood necks. Have you done the reverb update? It seriously improved the range of usable reverb on 2nd channel. I also use the low input for steel. Post some more when you get it dialed in. What pickup is in your MSA? |
I did do the update. I’m actually pretty happy with the verb on it, I generally don’t use a ton. I do wish they’d do some optional updates, like a mod for reverb on both channels. I have Telonics X10s in the MSA most of the time (that’s what’s in the video). It’s funny I actually just got an MSA SD10 with a metal neck. I use a 705 in that one most of the time. I really don’t like the 705 in the wood neck guitar, and I don’t like the X10s in the metal neck guitar. It’s funny how stuff reacts. |
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Larry Dering
From: Missouri, USA
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Posted 28 Nov 2021 8:42 am
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You got that right. Never know until you install it then it either great or oh noooo. I like the 705 in my Justice SD10 and the George L E66 in my Derby SD10. I have an old MSA Classic D10 and the pickups are extremely bright. Not sure what brand they are. Maybe factory jobs. |
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Andy Vance
From: Graham, Washington, USA
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Posted 28 Nov 2021 10:00 am
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Jesse,
I'd agree that rosewood necks often don't have the same tele spank/sparkle that I am looking for, hence I have always played maple necks. I'd be curious to hear your actual preferred tele tone if you have a recording of it? Everyone's ears and wants are different but there is no "wrong", for sure. |
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Jesse Cunningham
From: Oregon, USA
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Posted 28 Nov 2021 10:25 am
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Andy Vance wrote: |
Jesse,
I'd agree that rosewood necks often don't have the same tele spank/sparkle that I am looking for, hence I have always played maple necks. I'd be curious to hear your actual preferred tele tone if you have a recording of it? Everyone's ears and wants are different but there is no "wrong", for sure. |
Oh man, I feel like any given day I’ll change my mind hahahaha. I had a brown panel Pro with a 15 in it. I ran it with an outboard reverb tank. I should’ve never sold that amp. I feel like I’m still chasing that sound. I like just a bit of hair if you dig in, smooth highs, and a thumpy low E. I usually run an OD pedal with the gain more or less off. That tone in the video I posted is really close to what I like. I would’ve scooped the mids a tiny bit and put a few more highs in. I like a really simple set up too. I usually go Tele, OD, Reverb (sometimes delay for bands that do some rockabilly stuff), amp and that’s it. |
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Jesse Cunningham
From: Oregon, USA
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Posted 28 Nov 2021 1:33 pm
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I messed with recording a little more. I dialed my guitar in and had it just where I wanted it. With the DI though, even though it's a really good emulator, the interaction with the speakers aren't the same. I noticed neither my reverb pedal or my OD were as pronounced on the recording as in the room. Also, the bass was a little less pronounced and the highs and mids seem to be a little more pronounced. For me at least, with steel this is less of an issue than it is with guitar. I probably just need to play with it a little more. Here's a little guitar clip I made, I wish I could show what the in room sound was like....it's close, just not quite the same.
https://youtu.be/S_o5UMxxans |
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Andy Vance
From: Graham, Washington, USA
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Posted 28 Nov 2021 1:40 pm
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Good stuff. Thanks for taking the time to record it again. |
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Jesse Cunningham
From: Oregon, USA
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Posted 28 Nov 2021 1:44 pm
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Andy Vance wrote: |
Good stuff. Thanks for taking the time to record it again. |
No problem, you got me thinking.......and that's always dangerous. |
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Andy Vance
From: Graham, Washington, USA
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Posted 28 Nov 2021 1:50 pm
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Yea... kinda like me reading gear reviews! Always dangerous! |
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Don Downes
From: New Hampshire, USA
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Posted 28 Nov 2021 1:51 pm
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Just listened to "How I Got To Memphis" on your channel. I'm a fan,
I would like to ask how you did the video?
BTW, Robin loved it, but said you need to smile _________________ "The secret to a long life is to keep breathing." |
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Bob Bestor
From: Ashland, OR
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Posted 28 Nov 2021 1:52 pm Great tone!
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And dynamite picking too. _________________ Keep on truckin' |
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Don Downes
From: New Hampshire, USA
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Posted 28 Nov 2021 1:58 pm
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For real, Bob. _________________ "The secret to a long life is to keep breathing." |
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Jesse Cunningham
From: Oregon, USA
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Posted 28 Nov 2021 2:24 pm
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Don Downes wrote: |
Just listened to "How I Got To Memphis" on your channel. I'm a fan,
I would like to ask how you did the video?
BTW, Robin loved it, but said you need to smile |
Haha my mom always says I need to smile, but running video, sound and playing is tough. I’ll send you message to explain how I put those together. |
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