Flatted root, A&B down

Wayne Baker · From: Altus Oklahoma

What is the chord if string four is flatted a half tone, A&B pedals are down, playing 4,5 and 6?
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Charlie Hansen · From: Halifax, NS Canada and Various Southern Towns.

I believe itâ€™s a 9th chord.
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Wayne Baker · From: Altus Oklahoma

Thank you Charlie.
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b0b · From: Cloverdale, CA, USA

B9th on the open strings.
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Wayne Baker · From: Altus Oklahoma

Thanks b0b. I really like it.
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Andrew Frost · From: Toronto, Ontario

This is also a good way to play a partial D#'half diminished' chord aka D#min7b5. If you include the F# string(s) it is a complete 4 note chord, R b3 b5 b7
AB down w/ Es lowered, "one fret above" is how I think of it. So Em7b5 is at fret one. The root note is on string 4 & 8.
D#m7b5 w/ B in the bass makes B9. Great 5 chord in the home position. You can get the B root by using the BC pedals w/ Es lowered instead of AB. Its a big chord though- one needn't play all the chord tones.

Wayne Baker · From: Altus Oklahoma

Thank you Andrew. That helps. I'll try the one fret up chord and see what I can do with it.
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Frank Freniere · From: The First Coast

Chris Brooks · From: Providence, Rhode Island

What b0b said. Playing 4, 5, 6:

In 0 position, B pedal + E > D# lever = B7

Add A pedal: B9 chord

Caveat: Determining "what chord is this" really requires knowing the root of the chord (i.e. "What note is the bass player playing?)

BTW, if you half-pedal A you get a nice B7b9 chord . . . jazzier than a straight B7.

Wayne Baker · From: Altus Oklahoma

Excellent! I like jazzy. I'm tryna get some super fat jazz type stuff for a more modern Christian music application as well. I'm taking the PFM. The C6 essentials course is really helping me.
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J D Sauser · From: Wellington, Florida

The way you may want to look at it is the Dom7th chord you get with strings 4&8 lowered half (E-to-Eb-lever) and the B-pedal down only: which is your typical 7th chord.
You ADD the A-pedal to the mix and you have a 9th because the root get's raised a full tone on the same fret (which is 2 frets below your A&B down Major position).

... J-D.
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Fred Treece · From: California, USA

AB+Eâ€™s lowered changes the 0 position tuning to
C#-D-D#-F#-A-C#-D#-A-D#-F# (low to high)

String 9(D) is the oddball in an otherwise basically symmetric pattern across the strings.

The four notes C#-D#-F#-A, in any order, can form 4 different chords:
B9 no root (3-5â€“7-9)
D#m7b5 (1-b3-b5-7)
F#m6 (1-b3-5-6)
F7b9#5 no root. (3-#5-7-b9)

Some ordering of notes sound better than others for context. Only string 9 is â€œwrongâ€ for any of those chords, but there is still a lovely Dmaj7 chord sitting there on strings 9-7-6-5.

Richard Sinkler · From: aka: Rusty Strings -- Missoula, Montana

Fred Treece · From: California, USA

Thanks for getting us back on track, Richard. Strings 4 and 8 are only the root of an E major after pedals and levers are released from the chord in question when it is played as a B9.

Any 3 of the 4 notes C#-D#-F#-A also form the same chords and chord partials I mentioned in my previous post, including the notes in the string 6-5-4 grip. I just thought the additional information might benefit the OP since he is looking to jazz-up his sound.

Andrew Frost · From: Toronto, Ontario

Steve Mueller · From: Cincinnati, Ohio, USA

Some great ideas everyone. Thanks! One of my favorites is the diminished available using strings 8 - 4(which I believe someone already mentioned) using the half pedal, or half step change from B-C if you've got it. You can get lost down a rabbit hole once you start looking at the possibilities!
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Steve Mueller · From: Cincinnati, Ohio, USA

Once you start using ideas like this for the more harmonically rich chords, you begin appreciate the depth and versaltility of the C6th tuning. To me, these ideas are so much more accessable and logical on the C6. Now if I could just figure out a way to combine these tunings.....HA!
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Dale Rottacker · From: Walla Walla Washington, USA

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