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Topic: Brney Isaacs JR´s console tuning? & C#-? |
J D Sauser
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Wellington, Florida
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Posted 21 May 2002 2:50 am |
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Can anybody please direct me to Barney Isaacs (JR)´s tunings he uses on his D-8 console? There´s specially one he´s using in backup situations doing all sort´s of funny (strummed) chords with  .
Also, who is still using that C#minor tuning and why or how (not just for "that" song "so-and-so" did in that tuning). To me C#-(7th) automatically converts into F6th... (?) Anybody playing F6th?
Thanks! ... J-D.
[This message was edited by J D Sauser on 21 May 2002 at 03:52 AM.] |
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Andy Volk
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Boston, MA
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Posted 21 May 2002 4:12 am
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Barney played several tunings including C13th (hi-to-low) E,C,A,G,E,C,Bb,C and B11th E,C#,A,F#,D#,C#,A,B among others. For strummed chord back up I'd bet it was B11th or possibly the Hawaiian version of E13th ...
E,C#,G#,F#,D,B,G#,E.
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Dave Mayes
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Oakland, Ca.
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Posted 21 May 2002 6:46 am
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| Lorene Ruymar's book has Barney using an E13th without the 9th: EC#G#EDBG#E (high to low). There are numerous inaccurracies in her book...so who knows ? |
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mikey
From:
New Jersey
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Posted 21 May 2002 7:35 pm
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I took a lesson from Barney in the 90's..he was using C13, Bass C, Bb,w a high E and Hawaiian E13,E,C#,B,G#,E,D,B,G#,(H-L)...actually rarely used the E13 neck(during lessons anyway....that neck would get retuned to B11...that's what I remember anyway..at that time...his main advice was you can do anything w/ C13...just work on that...(BTW..he called C6-Am7th)
Mike |
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J D Sauser
From:
Wellington, Florida
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Posted 22 May 2002 3:08 am
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Thanks to all! 
... J-D. |
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John Kavanagh
From:
Kentville, Nova Scotia, Canada * R.I.P.
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Posted 22 May 2002 9:10 am
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I knew a man, Jack Messacar, in Montreal about 10 years ago who had played professionally in the 1930's and 40's, and he used the E13 without the 9th for everything except a few tunes based on harmonics in A major.
His tuning was E G# B d e g# c# e', the same as Dave Mayes said Lorene Ruymar's book has Isaacs using. He was a bit apologetic about it - he knew the "proper" E13 tuning had the fourth string at f#, but he had got used to having the octave between 1 and 4 there, and didn't want to change (He also said he liked the slants better without a b string between g# and c#).
We played mostly jazz and some Hawaiian tunes, and he certainly knew where all the chords were. [This message was edited by John Kavanagh on 22 May 2002 at 10:14 AM.] |
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J D Sauser
From:
Wellington, Florida
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Posted 22 May 2002 10:23 am
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Thanks John.
Andy, you say that he played severak tunings... that´s like he wouldn´t anymore (?). If my memory serves me well, Barney Isaacs used to post on the Forum some time ago (?).
Thanks! ... J-D. |
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Andy Volk
From:
Boston, MA
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Posted 22 May 2002 11:50 am
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I don't beleive Barney ever posted on the forum, J.D. He died in 1996 - not long after the release of his acoustic CD on Dancing Cat - one heck of a swan song by anyone's standards. Here's his bio ...
http://www.dancingcat.com/dancingcat/artists/Barney_Isaacs.shtml
There are other Hawaiian players with more technique but IMHO, Barney had the market cornered on "feeling". |
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