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Johnie King


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Tennessee, USA
Post  Posted 28 Aug 2021 2:55 pm    
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If you added a fifth pedal to a Sd 10 steel what pulls would you choose?
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Dustin Rhodes


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Owasso OK
Post  Posted 28 Aug 2021 3:20 pm    
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Is this assuming ABC+Franklin?
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Johnie King


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Tennessee, USA
Post  Posted 28 Aug 2021 3:54 pm    
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Yes Dustin ABC PEDALS plus Franklin pedal ::: here's the copedent that was on my Rittenberry of a previous owner. Surely there's a better copedent an a better use of the Fifth pedal.

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Fred Treece


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California, USA
Post  Posted 28 Aug 2021 4:10 pm    
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Looks like somebody wanted a C6 neck real bad!

I put a 1/2 lower on 5 and 10 on the fifth pedal of a Williams I ordered recently. Hasn’t been delivered yet, so I can’t report on it one way or another. I just wanted to try it. The pedal order is B-lower/A/B/C/Franklin, left to right.
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Andrew Frost


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Toronto, Ontario
Post  Posted 28 Aug 2021 5:04 pm    
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I'd think lowering Bs a half would be a good thing to do somewhere, and on a pedal would be interesting as Fred outlined.

I don't have a D string on E9. It's on a lever and my 9 & 10 are B & G#.
But if I did play straight E9 and had a fifth pedal, I might drop 10 to G# and 9 to B#(C) to make a big Gdom#9 with Es lowered.
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Ron Pruter

 

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Arizona, USA
Post  Posted 28 Aug 2021 6:57 pm    
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Maybe just an easy minor chord by dropping the G#'s to G😏
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Dustin Rhodes


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Owasso OK
Post  Posted 28 Aug 2021 7:04 pm    
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You could always do a zero pedal with Tom Brumleys pedal one change and make the Franklin pedal the fifth one.
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Cappone dAngelo


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Vancouver, BC, Canada
Post  Posted 28 Aug 2021 7:21 pm    
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Ron Pruter wrote:
Maybe just an easy minor chord by dropping the G#'s to G😏


This is what I currently have on my 5th pedal. It gives some extra voicing/voiceleading options for minor and diminished chords, for example. Though it might be redundant for players who have a G#->F# lower on a knee lever or where the same thing can be accomplished on an F#->G# knee lever on the F#s (especially if they have a half-stop).
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Justin Emmert

 

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Greensboro, NC
Post  Posted 29 Aug 2021 3:49 am    
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I would lower 5 & 10 a 1/2 and put it on the zero pedal to split with the A pedal. I plan to do that very soon on my guitar.
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Ricky Davis


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Bertram, Texas USA
Post  Posted 29 Aug 2021 5:50 am    
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Raise 4th string E to F#
Lower 8th string E to D

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Paul Mozen


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Fl, USA
Post  Posted 2 Sep 2021 3:10 pm     5th pedaL
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Someone earlier said6 changes on 1 pedal would be a very heavy pull. I think you could do 2 raises and 2 lowers and not have too much pull pressure. Also I like the suggestion of E to F# and E to D
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K Maul


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Hadley, NY/Hobe Sound, FL
Post  Posted 2 Sep 2021 5:41 pm    
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Ricky Davis wrote:
Raise 4th string E to F#
Lower 8th string E to D

Ricky

Can you explain the uses of this?
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Ricky Davis


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Bertram, Texas USA
Post  Posted 2 Sep 2021 7:48 pm    
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Sorry K maul, im on the road and dont have time. But take key of G , i can think of movements in no pedal third fret, G major7 pedals down 5th fret; G7/9 6th fret; G6th 8th fret and G major 10th fret pedals down.
So pretty much the main thing is if you can hear movement out of any pedal or lever, add it and then add to your repertoire of something that sounds nice, that's moving. That's the art of a pedal steel, is to have notes moving at the same time. I had that change actually on my Fulawka on extra lkl lever, but all ypu have to do it take foot off volume pedal and reach over for 5th pedal.
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Larry Allen


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Kapaa, Kauai,Hawaii
Post  Posted 10 Sep 2021 4:32 pm    
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Raise 5-(B to C#) and 6-(G# to A#), use with E Lower KL then to D. Extended chords and licks… Very Happy
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