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b0b
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Jack Hanson
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San Luis Valley, USA
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Posted 9 Aug 2021 4:14 am |
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Amazing and innovative for 1941. Moore, Rey, and Gibson truly created a monster.
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b0b
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Cloverdale, CA, USA
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Charles Kurck
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Living in Arkansas but Heaven is home
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Posted 9 Aug 2021 9:33 am Gibson Pedal Steels
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Gibson Electraharp...1939-1941
Gibson Multiharp......1956-1957
Gibson EH-630.........1956-1965
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Michael Greer
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Posted 9 Aug 2021 10:32 am
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Not sure what year this is but badge says Electraharp.
Bob, would you know what tunings were originally used "back in the day"?
Is the E9 proposal tuning you shared something that could work with the original pedals.?
I have simply been using mine as a non pedal.
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Dustin Rhodes
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Owasso OK
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Posted 9 Aug 2021 11:13 am
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| I wonder if this is similar to the function of the levers on Tom Morrells Carson Wells steel? |
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b0b
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Cloverdale, CA, USA
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Posted 9 Aug 2021 2:58 pm
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| Michael Greer wrote: |
| Is the E9 proposal tuning you shared something that could work with the original pedals.? |
That's my question as well.
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J D Sauser
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Wellington, Florida
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Posted 12 Aug 2021 6:06 am
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| What about the more common 1950s models, after the Harlen Brothers lawsuit? |
Gibson lost the Harlin Bros. lawsuit and had to downgrade their changer. From that point on, since they did not come up with a new design that would conflict with the HB patent, the Gibson changer lost the ability to raise AND lower any string any number of times to become only raise OR lower.
Bigsby and Fender came along and the rest is history.
I am not sure IF THAT is what you asked, thou.
... J-D.
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b0b
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Cloverdale, CA, USA
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b0b
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Cloverdale, CA, USA
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Posted 12 Aug 2021 7:18 am
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| Michael Greer wrote: |
| Bob, would you know what tunings were originally used "back in the day"? |
I don't know what it was shipped with, but I suspect that each player put their own tunings on it.
The original pre-lawsuit Electraharps are very rare. I've never even seen one in person. I guess what I'm really asking about is the more common 1950s mechanism.
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J D Sauser
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Wellington, Florida
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Posted 12 Aug 2021 11:19 am
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| Would the multiple B string raises that I posted above be possible? |
From what I believe to remember: On either generations you could raise & lower and later only raise OR lower ANY string(s) as many times as you had pedals.
Very similar to the later Fender-Fields PS210.
So, in IMO YES WE CAN!
... J-D.
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Was it JFK who said: Ask Not What TAB Can Do For You - Rather Ask Yourself "What Would B.B. King Do?"
A Little Mental Health Warning:
Tablature KILLS SKILLS.
The uses of Tablature is addictive and has been linked to reduced musical fertility.
Those who produce Tablature did never use it.
I say it humorously, but I mean it. |
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Jack Hanson
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San Luis Valley, USA
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Posted 12 Aug 2021 11:48 am
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| Sure would be interesting to set one up that way if it was doable. Mike, why not give it a whirl on that pretty sunburst? |
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J D Sauser
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Wellington, Florida
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Posted 12 Aug 2021 12:44 pm
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b0b.
I looked up the documents I have.
Both systems had horizontal changer fingers reaching out to the left of the "nut".
Wether you had lowering AND raising ability or not, there was a cross bar for EACH pedal going across ALL changer fingers. In other words at least as many cross barss over the fingers as there are pedals.
If you had lowering AND raising you had split-changer fingers and TWO cross bars across all changer fingers; one for raising, another for lowering.
Each cross bar had as many set screws as there were strings, to set which string(s) you wanted to pull how much. You could have operated ALL strings on EACH pedal.
I don't know how far you could pull, and you know it also depends on string gauges how much travel you need to change to a full tone pitch change.
In my opinion, you SHOULD be able to set up the above proposed tuning and changes on even a post-downgrade-Gibson.
... J-D.
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Was it JFK who said: Ask Not What TAB Can Do For You - Rather Ask Yourself "What Would B.B. King Do?"
A Little Mental Health Warning:
Tablature KILLS SKILLS.
The uses of Tablature is addictive and has been linked to reduced musical fertility.
Those who produce Tablature did never use it.
I say it humorously, but I mean it. |
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b0b
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Cloverdale, CA, USA
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Posted 12 Aug 2021 1:24 pm
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Brilliant description, J D.. I've seen several guitars that worked like that, including my first pedal steel (a Wise).
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J D Sauser
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Wellington, Florida
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Posted 12 Aug 2021 1:29 pm
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| b0b wrote: |
| Brilliant description, J D.. I've seen several guitars that worked like that, including my first pedal steel (a Wise). |
I sent you an email with more details and a warning you will not head (I know, because I wouldn't either)... J-D.
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Was it JFK who said: Ask Not What TAB Can Do For You - Rather Ask Yourself "What Would B.B. King Do?"
A Little Mental Health Warning:
Tablature KILLS SKILLS.
The uses of Tablature is addictive and has been linked to reduced musical fertility.
Those who produce Tablature did never use it.
I say it humorously, but I mean it. |
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