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Topic: Mystery Black Widow... |
Karl Paulsen
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Chicago
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Larry Dering
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Missouri, USA
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Posted 25 Jun 2021 6:27 pm |
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| I can't help on the identity but be careful of old Black Widow speakers. I bought a pair of old Peavey PA cabinets containing BW speakers. They only handle 80 watts. Not enough for the Reno or most steel amps. They sound ok but I wouldn't push them. They have silver center caps. |
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Karl Paulsen
From:
Chicago
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Jerry Overstreet
From:
Louisville Ky
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Posted 25 Jun 2021 8:10 pm
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Never seen any BW like that. Looks like another magnet, or some other metallic object, just stuck on the back of the first one. It's not bolted down, nothing to hold it on. Strange.
That'd be my guess except for the way the center cone looks where the voice coil lives....maybe it's just missing the dust cap, I dunno. [edit]...another look through the grille and I believe that's just a black paper dust cap I'm seeing. The magnet stack would be my concern.
I guess it's possible it could be an original config, but I'm dubious... wouldn't buy it without hearing it, but it looks like it's unbolted from the cab in the photo. |
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David Nugent
From:
Gum Spring, Va.
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Posted 26 Jun 2021 5:51 am
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| Karl..There should be a small white tag located near the speaker lugs with the model number and ohm rating printed on it, you might try emailing the seller and ask him to check. |
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Doug Earnest
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Branson, MO USA
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Posted 26 Jun 2021 6:02 am
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That is a BW with a Whizzer Cone - a sort of a built in coaxial tweeter. I remember they made them for a while and mostly I saw them in the monitor style cabinet pictured on the craigslist ad posted. This is the first I ever saw the back of one but I'm very sure of what it is. It wasn't a new or original idea although Peavey's execution of it may have been.
Larry Dering, that is surprising to hear about an early BW speaker rated for 80 watts.The first ones I remember or knew of were the flat back magnet with spider web decal and were 150 watts or such, very heavy duty for the time no matter what the number was.
Karl, I doubt it would be suitable for a musical instrument speaker just because I have never seen one used like that. On the other hand, for cheap that would be a handy full range cabinet to own! |
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Jerry Overstreet
From:
Louisville Ky
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Posted 26 Jun 2021 6:47 am
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Well, there you go. Learn something every day I remember Radio Shack marketed MI and PA speakers with what they called a whizzer cone which was an extension around the center cone/cap that supposedly emphasized high frequencies. Some aftermarket automotive hi-fi speakers also.
Far as the 80 watt BW's, never knew of them either. The first ones I knew were in the steel amps like the Session and LTD and were rated much higher. They did use some chrome domed CTS speakers with a lower rating though.
There again though, I've not seen everything as witnessed here already. |
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Karl Paulsen
From:
Chicago
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Larry Dering
From:
Missouri, USA
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Posted 26 Jun 2021 7:58 am
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| The Black widows may actually take more power but the old PA cab is marked with that as a max. Could be because of the horn or crossover in the cabinet. I grabbed them because of the Black Widow 15s and later seen the markings on the tag at the jacks. Who knows. I haven't pulled the speaker to see what it really is. |
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Jeffrey Maxwell
From:
Amarillo, Texas, USA
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Posted 26 Jun 2021 9:46 am
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That is a coaxial Black Widow speaker. The extra magnet assembly on the back is a peavey 22 compression driver minus the diaphragm. The black assembly on the front is the horn for the compression driver. The high frequencies passed through the big magnet assembly and came out that short horn. Peavey made monitor speakers that used these. I have a couple pictures of the 12" version of this speaker.
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Jerry Overstreet
From:
Louisville Ky
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Posted 26 Jun 2021 9:58 am
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| Wow Jeffrey. Cool pics supporting Doug's description. Def not practical for SG. |
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Karl Paulsen
From:
Chicago
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Donny Hinson
From:
Glen Burnie, Md. U.S.A.
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Posted 26 Jun 2021 10:35 am
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That's a huge speaker, and probably too big to fit in any normal combo amp. (It also looks ungodly heavy!)  |
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James Sission
From:
Sugar Land,Texas USA
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Posted 26 Jun 2021 12:46 pm
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| Wow. Great information. My back hurts just looking at it. |
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Karl Paulsen
From:
Chicago
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Posted 26 Jun 2021 1:44 pm
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The fellow selling the speaker sent me some additional pictures. It's definitely the 15" version of what Jeffery posted. Not what I need but this was definitely a cool learning experience.
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