| Visit Our Catalog at SteelGuitarShopper.com |

Post new topic Lap steel
Reply to topic
Author Topic:  Lap steel
Bruce Griffin

 

From:
Iowa City, Iowa
Post  Posted 25 Apr 2002 4:07 pm    
Reply with quote

I just acquired a Electar Zephyr and immediately started busting strings as I tried to figure out a tuning (for blues and rock mostly.) Wondering about what it's worth (fair condition) what's a good tuning or two for it, and string gauges, please. That 22 and 1/4 scale changes things on gauges, apparently. Thanks!
View user's profile Send private message
Brad Bechtel


From:
San Francisco, CA
Post  Posted 25 Apr 2002 5:50 pm    
Reply with quote

What tuning are you using? You shouldn't be busting strings unless you're trying to use the wrong gauges for the tuning you're trying to use.
This is the string gauge chart to which I refer most people.
I normally use either open E or open D (bass to treble:

E B E G# B E


or

D A D F# A D


).
For these tunings, a good set of "regular" gauge electric guitar strings (.056 to .013) works well.
According to the 2001 Vintage Guitar Price guide, your Epiphone Electar Zephyr could be worth between $300 and $500 in excellent condition. Without a better description or a photo of the instrument, it's impossible to give a better guesstimate.

------------------
Brad's Page of Steel
A web site devoted to acoustic & electric lap steel guitars

[This message was edited by Brad Bechtel on 25 April 2002 at 06:51 PM.]

View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Visit poster's website
Andy Volk


From:
Boston, MA
Post  Posted 26 Apr 2002 2:28 am    
Reply with quote

What Brad said.

Here's another useful string gauge chart:
http://panworld.net/~johnely/learning/gauges.html
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Visit poster's website
Bob Schaedler

 

From:
Southbury, CT, USA
Post  Posted 26 Apr 2002 7:30 am    
Reply with quote

The Sol Hoopii C#minor, very interesting:
Low to high:

B D E G# C# E

Nice for blues, slant bar to get a major 3-5-1 chord on strings 2,3,4, a little out of tune but neat sound using vibrato.

A variation suggested by Keoki:

F# A# E G# C# E

Strings 2 - 6 are the 9th chord, root on string 6. Fun stuff. Having a ball with these on my Old Kraftsman.

View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail
Bob Schaedler

 

From:
Southbury, CT, USA
Post  Posted 26 Apr 2002 9:40 am    
Reply with quote

Bruce, on the gauges, the short scale should be able to support standard string gauges, note for note, if they are too slack, move up a whole note (or down an equivalent string guage), works for me.
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail
Zayit


From:
Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada
Post  Posted 2 May 2002 2:34 pm    
Reply with quote

Sorry to take up a cold thread Bob, but your C#m tuning (B D E G# C# E) looks almost like a stripped-down version of Don Helms E-13th.

I'm a newbie, so I'm asking ya not arguing with ya: Why is this tuning so good for blues? I currently use a high 'G' C6 for blues. Strings 6-5-4 give me most of a dominant 7th (root on string 4)& I can pull string 3 one fret if I need the 3rd too.

I sometimes use open 'E' & that C# on string two would just get in the way of my scales (tried it). Please enlighten me.
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail

All times are GMT - 8 Hours
Jump to:  
Please review our Forum Rules and Policies
Our Online Catalog
Strings, CDs, instruction, and steel guitar accessories
www.SteelGuitarShopper.com

The Steel Guitar Forum
148 S. Cloverdale Blvd.
Cloverdale, CA 95425 USA

Click Here to Send a Donation

Email SteelGuitarForum@gmail.com for technical support.


BIAB Styles
Ray Price Shuffles for Band-in-a-Box
by Jim Baron