Author |
Topic: JP Big Daddy Steel Bar |
Larry Banks
From: Utah, USA
|
Posted 26 May 2021 12:43 pm
|
|
What do you all think about the JP Big Daddy steel bar? I wonder if I will get better tone with the weight? I am using a Ernie Ball ... but want something like a ShoBud that I had in the past. Thoughts? |
|
|
|
Larry Dering
From: Missouri, USA
|
Posted 26 May 2021 4:48 pm
|
|
I'm not familiar with the JP but I have a boatload of bars, from 7/8 to 1 inch. Various weight and length. Some are powder coated, poly coated or chrome then stainless steel. 1st you need to get the length and weight right for your comfort. I find the 15/16th size best for me and a 3 3/8 length. It takes trial and error to get the right feel, tone and comfort you desire. Give it a try. |
|
|
|
Larry Banks
From: Utah, USA
|
Posted 26 May 2021 6:27 pm Bar
|
|
Thanks for your advice |
|
|
|
Richard Sinkler
From: aka: Rusty Strings -- Missoula, Montana
|
Posted 27 May 2021 5:25 am
|
|
JP is John Pearce. Just for clarification. I have no experience with their bars, but hear they are OK. I use a John Pearce thumb pick and love it. Tried John Pearce strings the last time I changed strings. They suck!
I believe JP bars are stainless. Might not be a good choice if you use stainless wound strings. Stainless on stainless creates a slight drag on the strings. _________________ Carter D10 8p/8k, Dekley S10 3p/4k C6 setup,Regal RD40 Dobro, Recording King Professional Dobro, NV400, NV112,Ibanez Gio guitar, Epiphone SG Special (open D slide guitar) . Playing for 54 years and still counting. |
|
|
|
Donny Hinson
From: Glen Burnie, Md. U.S.A.
|
Posted 27 May 2021 4:18 pm
|
|
Tone would likely be unchanged, but you might notice some more sustain on the slow stuff. But if you're looking for a Sho~Bud sound, you probably don't want more sustain anyway. Some pros I've talked to over the years that switched from Sho~Bud to other guitars told me that their sustain really wasn't that great, and that was one of the reasons they switched. Personally, I've never played a guitar that didn't have enough sustain to suit me. Each to his own, I guess.
The closest I've heard to a Sho~Bud sound in a more modern guitar was the Fulawka. They just about have it nailed, IMHO. |
|
|
|
Lee Dassow
From: Jefferson, Georgia USA
|
Posted 27 May 2021 6:01 pm
|
|
I bought two John Pearse "long john"bars off the forum store some years back.They are 15x16th diameter. I love em. Tenn.Lee _________________ 2015 Mullen D-10 Royal Precision 9x8,-1990 BMI S-10 5x5-1972 Silver face Fender pro Reverb amp,-1965 Fender Super Reverb Amp,- 1966 Fender Showman Amp Two 15" JBL speakers,- 2006 65 Fender Twin Reverb reissue Amp,- 1982 Peavey Session 500 amp,-1978 Peavey Session 400,Goodrich Volume Pedals,John Pearse Steel Bars, |
|
|
|
Stu Schulman
From: Ulster Park New Yawk (deceased)
|
Posted 28 May 2021 5:58 am
|
|
Larry,John Pearce are my favorite stainless steel bars,I had a Big Daddy around here somewhere,I just bought another 7/8"John Pearce because I gave mine to a friend who is just starting his steel journey. _________________ Steeltronics Z-pickup,Desert Rose S-10 4+5,Desert Rose Keyless S-10 3+5... Mullen G2 S-10 3+5,Telonics 206 pickups,Telonics volume pedal.,Blanton SD -10,Emmons GS_10...Zirctone bar,Bill Groner Bar...any amp that isn't broken.Steel Seat.Com seats...Licking paint chips off of Chinese Toys since 1952. |
|
|
|
David Ball
From: North Carolina High Country
|
Posted 28 May 2021 1:27 pm
|
|
I have a Big Daddy and I like it. It sounds great, although it's a bit on the heavy side.
Dave |
|
|
|
Len Ryder
From: Penticton B.C.
|
Posted 28 May 2021 1:57 pm
|
|
While I was playing in Hawaii Iin the early 60’s I had a steel made for my own wants, I had them use polished stainless steel 3 1/2†long. 1†inch thick and a 5/8 “ hole drilled 3†deep. I used that steel till I quit playing about 5 years ago.. No rust, nicks in all those years. |
|
|
|
Larry Banks
From: Utah, USA
|
Posted 1 Jun 2021 2:19 pm
|
|
Donny Hinson wrote: |
Tone would likely be unchanged, but you might notice some more sustain on the slow stuff. But if you're looking for a Sho~Bud sound, you probably don't want more sustain anyway. Some pros I've talked to over the years that switched from Sho~Bud to other guitars told me that their sustain really wasn't that great, and that was one of the reasons they switched. Personally, I've never played a guitar that didn't have enough sustain to suit me. Each to his own, I guess.
The closest I've heard to a Sho~Bud sound in a more modern guitar was the Fulawka. They just about have it nailed, IMHO. |
Thanks. Not looking for the Shobud sound. Their bar was a little bigger. I love my Deckley D 10 sound. |
|
|
|
Larry Banks
From: Utah, USA
|
Posted 1 Jun 2021 2:20 pm
|
|
David Ball wrote: |
I have a Big Daddy and I like it. It sounds great, although it's a bit on the heavy side.
Dave |
Just got my big daddy. Perfect and more sustain... |
|
|
|
Larry Banks
From: Utah, USA
|
Posted 1 Jun 2021 2:22 pm
|
|
David Ball wrote: |
I have a Big Daddy and I like it. It sounds great, although it's a bit on the heavy side.
Dave |
Yes it is heavier... but love the sound so far. |
|
|
|
Larry Dering
From: Missouri, USA
|
Posted 1 Jun 2021 4:07 pm
|
|
Larry Banks, whatever feels right and works. Enjoy the new bar. |
|
|
|
Jim Fogarty
From: Phila, Pa, USA
|
Posted 1 Jun 2021 5:45 pm
|
|
I have one that I keep as a backup and for real slow, sustainy ballads. Slides as well as my BJS, pretty much. A LITTLE heavy, but not too bad. For the price, it can't be beat.
I may snag a Long John soon. |
|
|
|
Larry Banks
From: Utah, USA
|
Posted 1 Jun 2021 8:00 pm
|
|
Jim Fogarty wrote: |
I have one that I keep as a backup and for real slow, sustainy ballads. Slides as well as my BJS, pretty much. A LITTLE heavy, but not too bad. For the price, it can't be beat.
I may snag a Long John soon. |
|
|
|
|