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Topic: Right vertical knee |
rick andrews
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Posted 12 Apr 2021 9:40 am |
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| Does anyone use a vertical lever on their right knee? If so, tell me what you think about it. |
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Dana Blodgett
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California, USA
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Posted 12 Apr 2021 11:33 am
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I’ve been thinking of getting a new single neck E9, with a 3pedals& 6knees...With E raises& lowers on left, B-Bb lower (left knee up) & standard ABC pedals.
Right knee left-raise 1&7 a half step to “Gâ€, right knee right tuneable half step to “D†then on to “C#â€, lower 9th string to “C#â€. Also Right knee -string 1up a whole step to “G#, second string raise a half step to “E†& lower 6 a whole step to F#, add a split tuning to catch the “G†in between.
I am concerned if it would hamper my volume pedal technique if at all.
I was thinking of going this way because my left ankle & arch were injured about 3 yrs ago, and have limited flexibility still.
I’m curious about this copedant versus a 4th pedal or “0†pedal, also concerns if this is too much for the 2nd string pull.
Thoughts?
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Dana Blodgett
From Los Osos,Ca.
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John McClung
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Olympia WA, USA
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Posted 12 Apr 2021 11:43 am
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Dana, think twice about a RKV. I've never had one, but tried staggered levers on both sides of my RK levers, and both really fouled up my volume pedal technique. I think a vertical would be even worse, coming back down to the VP with your foot in the exact same spot would be quite the trick.
The best spot ergonomically for a 6th lever is a staggered LKL. Mine that's further forward is secondary changes, the rear one is a main change, and that works well because your left leg is at quite an angle which helps get to both levers. I may try swapping that around, see if it's better to have a key change on LKL-Fwd.
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Dana Blodgett
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California, USA
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Posted 12 Apr 2021 12:09 pm
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Thanks for replying John, yeah that’s exactly what I was concerned about. I’m kinda old school in a way, I really like the 1&7 1/2 step raise, but was tryin to figure out how to add the first string raise whole step,2nd string 1/2 step raise. Could this be added to the left knee left (F lever) without interfering with anything mechanically or musically? I considered adding a tuneable 1/2 step,whole step raise but was told they work better on lowers versus raises.
I was considering a Mullen or a Justice guitar at this time.
I don’t mean to hijack this post ,but curious
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Dana Blodgett
From Los Osos,Ca.
'74 ShoBud 6140 3+4, Martins HD28,D-12-28, D-15,'65 Gibson LG-1, '77 Gibson Les Paul special dbl cut p-90's, Les Paul Special p-100's,Les paul Special Hybrid(maple top) hbkr's,'68 Fender Strat reissue, Fender Squire Jazz bass,Epi mandolin,Epi Wilshire '66 reissue, Kamaka Concert uke, 70's Kamaka Soprano Uke, Fender Super amp, Ampeg ba112 bass amp,60's harmony banjo,'00 Gibson SG Supreme |
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Erv Niehaus
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Litchfield, MN, USA
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Posted 12 Apr 2021 12:34 pm
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I think you would have trouble operating a foot volume control along with a vertical knee lever.
Erv |
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Richard Sinkler
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aka: Rusty Strings -- Missoula, Montana
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Posted 12 Apr 2021 1:39 pm
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| John McClung wrote: |
Dana, think twice about a RKV. I've never had one, but tried staggered levers on both sides of my RK levers, and both really fouled up my volume pedal technique. I think a vertical would be even worse, coming back down to the VP with your foot in the exact same spot would be quite the trick.
The best spot ergonomically for a 6th lever is a staggered LKL. Mine that's further forward is secondary changes, the rear one is a main change, and that works well because your left leg is at quite an angle which helps get to both levers. I may try swapping that around, see if it's better to have a key change on LKL-Fwd. |
I have the lkl that is closer to the front of the guitar as a main change (E to D#) and the one closest to the rear has whatever I decide to put on it that day (nothing permanent on there right now). Easier for me to move my knee back than forward.
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Richard Sinkler
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aka: Rusty Strings -- Missoula, Montana
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Posted 12 Apr 2021 1:48 pm
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| Dana Blodgett wrote: |
Thanks for replying John, yeah that’s exactly what I was concerned about. I’m kinda old school in a way, I really like the 1&7 1/2 step raise, but was tryin to figure out how to add the first string raise whole step,2nd string 1/2 step raise. Could this be added to the left knee left (F lever) without interfering with anything mechanically or musically? I considered adding a tuneable 1/2 step,whole step raise but was told they work better on lowers versus raises.
I was considering a Mullen or a Justice guitar at this time.
I don’t mean to hijack this post ,but curious |
I'm kind of old school too. I raise 1 & 7 to G on my vertical lever. And I raise 1 & 2 and lower 6 on rkr. I find that I can get the G on string 1 by barely pressing rkr or pulling string 1 behind the bar. But I would miss raising 7 to G. I may take my 2nd lkl and raise 7 to G# with a half stop at G. But it is really awkward using that lever with pedals down. I'm a Day player, so A & B are my 2nd & 3rd pedals.
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scott murray
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Asheville, NC
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Posted 12 Apr 2021 2:50 pm
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I don't think Ive ever seen a RKV, and I assume the volume pedal is the reason. even Buddy Cage who had 14 (!!!) knee levers, stopped short of adding a RKV.
I play mostly without a volume pedal on C6 since I'm using both feet much of the time so a RKV could work for me, at least on the back neck.
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James Quillian
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San Antonio, Texas, USA
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Posted 12 Apr 2021 6:10 pm
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I have a question. I use my left foot on all 8 pedals.
The only exception is on the C6 neck and that is only when two pedals are in a sequence where that is the only way to do it. Is that the wrong way to do it?
I also use my left leg with the LVL. Do most folks use their right lag for that?
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