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Smokey Fennell


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Edmonton, Alberta, Canada
Post  Posted 9 Apr 2021 11:19 am    
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Can anyone tell me about this steel a friend bought recently. These name on the front says ESTATE. Is it a one off home made or was it production?
Any ideas on what those white buttons were for?
Does anyone have ideas for making it playable again?





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Richard Sinkler


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aka: Rusty Strings -- Missoula, Montana
Post  Posted 9 Apr 2021 12:12 pm    
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Looks homemade to me. Looks like paper clips were used to connect the rods (and cables?) to the changer fingers. Confused
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Smokey Fennell


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Edmonton, Alberta, Canada
Post  Posted 9 Apr 2021 12:15 pm    
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I think somebody replaced original parts with any odd thing lying around. The cable pull looks original to me.I'm not sure about the paper clips. They may have been special order.
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Ian Worley


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Sacramento, CA
Post  Posted 9 Apr 2021 12:24 pm    
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looks like it's meant to be a lefty, but set up backwards in the pics. Pedal cranks are on the back apron (but so is the knee lever)
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Erv Niehaus


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Litchfield, MN, USA
Post  Posted 9 Apr 2021 1:46 pm    
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Looks like a Frankensteel to me. Whoa!
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Smokey Fennell


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Edmonton, Alberta, Canada
Post  Posted 9 Apr 2021 2:38 pm    
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It absolutely is a Frankensteel. A friend bought it and wants to make a project of getting it working again.
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Chris Lucker

 

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Los Angeles, California USA
Post  Posted 9 Apr 2021 5:28 pm    
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I see one part that you would find on a Roberts the crank near the changer, but that is it. I cannot recall what Roberts fingers looked like. I thing the rod hooks come from the pedal steels made by Office Depot.
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Bobby D. Jones

 

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West Virginia, USA
Post  Posted 10 Apr 2021 8:21 pm    
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I remember seeing a Lawn Mower/Small Tractor with a model name of ESTATE. Not sure if it was in the USA or Canada. The name plate looks familiar.

For the 3 white buttons I would guess from the wiring in the photo. The pickup has been tapped for 3 different OHM resistances for the pickup. By pushing each button down in some order would change the tone of the pickup.
If you could hook the amp, jack to a Multi/OHM meter may show resistance changes by pushing the buttons on and off, 1 2 or all 3 at once. Just a guess.
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Ron Carter


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New Zealand
Post  Posted 10 Apr 2021 9:24 pm    
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The basics are there ,just needs a few radical modifications and a ton of patience. ok to learn on perhaps. a spare time mission
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Patrick Huey


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Nacogdoches, Texas, USA
Post  Posted 11 Apr 2021 4:24 am    
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Ian Worley wrote:
looks like it's meant to be a lefty, but set up backwards in the pics. Pedal cranks are on the back apron (but so is the knee lever)

Ian,
It could possibly be a special pedal setup for someone right handed but had a leg disability of some sort necessitating shifting the pedals off center like that. I remember Jim Lindsey had wanted something similar after he had his stroke
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