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Topic: WBS 2 tunings on 1 neck |
Nick Waugh
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Posted 15 Mar 2021 5:14 am |
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Hi All
Has anyone heard of this set up before? Someone is selling a WBS pedal steel in the UK. It is an SD10 with the choice of e9 or C6. To change the tuning, there is a lever underneath and according to the seller, you just pull the lever and the tuning is adjusted immediately. I am wondering how reliable the tuning is with this system, i.e., how well it stays in tune with this addition challenge to the mechanism.
I know you guys are not too familiar with WBS, with the company being based in europe, but I would welcome you feedback on this technology. |
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Pete Burak
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Portland, OR USA
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Posted 15 Mar 2021 5:36 am
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It's not unheard of.
I would go check it out if it were close enough.
As always, negotiate a full refund return agreement if you choose to buy it. |
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Jack Stoner
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Kansas City, MO
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Posted 15 Mar 2021 5:39 am
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| I know nothing about the WBS method, but Sho-Bud had a model that switched and it did not work well. |
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Richard Sinkler
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aka: Rusty Strings -- Missoula, Montana
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Posted 15 Mar 2021 7:31 am
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| I know nothing about the WBS method, but Sho-Bud had a model that switched and it did not work well. |
Wasn't the Sho-Bud a system where when you flipped the lever, the linkages switched from one neck to another? I think the OP is referring to a single neck with a system where flipping the lever actually "retunes" the open tuning from E9 to C6. Not sure about whether it would change the pedal functions (that's asking a whole lot for a single lever to accomplish). Seems I read where Excel has this feature on one of there models, but not positive.
Based on past posts here, WBS has a very positive reputation.
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Carter D10 8p/8k, Dekley S10 3p/4k C6 setup,Regal RD40 Dobro, Recording King Professional Dobro, NV400, NV112,Ibanez Gio guitar, Epiphone SG Special (open D slide guitar) . Playing for 54 years and still counting. |
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Richard Sinkler
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aka: Rusty Strings -- Missoula, Montana
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Posted 15 Mar 2021 7:49 am
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Went to the WBS website. This is the info on their CHANGELOCK.:
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Carter D10 8p/8k, Dekley S10 3p/4k C6 setup,Regal RD40 Dobro, Recording King Professional Dobro, NV400, NV112,Ibanez Gio guitar, Epiphone SG Special (open D slide guitar) . Playing for 54 years and still counting. |
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Jack Stoner
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Kansas City, MO
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Posted 15 Mar 2021 9:28 am
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| Richard Sinkler wrote: |
| Jack Stoner wrote: |
| I know nothing about the WBS method, but Sho-Bud had a model that switched and it did not work well. |
Wasn't the Sho-Bud a system where when you flipped the lever, the linkages switched from one neck to another? I think the OP is referring to a single neck with a system where flipping the lever actually "retunes" the open tuning from E9 to C6. Not sure about whether it would change the pedal functions (that's asking a whole lot for a single lever to accomplish). Seems I read where Excel has this feature on one of there models, but not positive.
Based on past posts here, WBS has a very positive reputation. |
Yes, looks like the WBS isn't reusing the pedals. |
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Nick Waugh
From:
United Kingdom
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Posted 15 Mar 2021 11:35 am
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| Thanks for posting the change lock info Richard. I watched the video attached to it, demonstrating the change lock. Unfortunately it is in German, although he does demonstrate the 2 tunings and it sounds good to me. But, I am not confident about it as it seems a bit gimmicky. Like something you would want to get shot of after the novelty wore off. The seller wants £3,500 for it. That's almost $5000. |
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Pete Burak
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Portland, OR USA
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Posted 15 Mar 2021 11:39 am
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| It might still be fun to check it out, and meet another Steel Player, if it were not too far away. |
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Ian Worley
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Posted 15 Mar 2021 12:48 pm
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That E9->C6 change is the same thing that Mike Sigler has done with a pedal, there are several threads on the forum from 6-8 years ago if you search "Sigler pedal". He started just changing strings 3-5-6-7 but later added 9&10. Several E9 pedals and levers work with the tuning, E lowers emulate P6, A pedal raises C>C#, B>Bb lever splits back to B, others depending on the lever setup. It's limited but still useful.
I've never seen a WBS guitar in person, but from what I've seen here on the forum and elsewhere they are top shelf.
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Fred Treece
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California, USA
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Ian Worley
From:
Sacramento, CA
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Posted 15 Mar 2021 2:17 pm
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| ...an Excel 12-str version of this concept... |
Drifting off topic here, but somewhere there is vid of the underside of an Excel E9-C6 with Mitsuo demonstrating how his crossover system works. Really well engineered, it's a full uni setup with separate C6 pedals and crossover-changeable knee and pedal functions. As I recall there was a second changer mechanism on the tuner end to actuate the alternate tuning. Might have been something Carl Dixon posted but I can't find it.
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