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Bud Harger


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Belton, Texas by way of Baton Rouge, Louisiana
Post  Posted 2 Mar 2021 1:48 pm    
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I recently read that a 10-3/4" cabinet was "rare and desirable" feature of early Push-Pulls. What is the significance of a 10-3/4" cabinet?

If there is a significance, when were they manufactured and what differences did they have compared to a "regular sized" cabinet?

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Marty Broussard


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Broussard, Louisiana, USA
Post  Posted 2 Mar 2021 4:34 pm    
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Kelcey ONeil


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Sevierville, TN
Post  Posted 2 Mar 2021 6:47 pm    
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Bud,
Perhaps there was a typo on that particular post; the earliest Emmons were indeed a slightly different size, but they measured 10 1/4” wide as opposed to 10 1/2” used from there on out. These would have been made from the end of 1964 with the beginning of the first Emmons guitars( known as wraparounds) and concluded at the end of 1965 with the end of wraparound production and the advent of the Bolt On. A handful of early Bolt Ons were known to have used wraparound components, and are often considered more desirable as a result. There is probably not a particular advantage to it, it is just an indicator of a very early, and thus rare, Emmons.
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Bud Harger


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Belton, Texas by way of Baton Rouge, Louisiana
Post  Posted 3 Mar 2021 7:45 am     Probably a typo...
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My 1967 Emmons and my 1969 (Scaggs-restored) Emmons are both 10-1/4" cabinet.

The description in an early post about the Scaggs restore, mentioned 'rare and desirable' 10-3/4" cabinet. I thought at the time that was a typo. When I received that guitar, the cabinet was indeed 10-1/4", as I expected it to be.

I recently came across that description again and it peaked my interest. Thanks for the comments. I love this Forum!

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Chris Lucker

 

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Los Angeles, California USA
Post  Posted 3 Mar 2021 12:21 pm    
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It is not the width of the cabinet that is makes the early cabinets desired, it is the slim and flimsy center overlap. After Emmons started using jigs they made the overlap beefier and made the overlap even stronger in the Seventies to the point where they needed to scallop around the lower return spring bracket. These beefier cabinets could be put together and stacked without being in endplates, which is an odd thing to do with an Emmons double cabinet. The early double cabinets were fragile. The screws down the center are there to keep the necks apart not to bind them together. The same with the control panel—keep the top decks straight and pushed apart. Think Bigsby. There is no overlap in Bigsby multi neck guitars.
The old Emmons guitars had narrower cabinets because there were no changes on the first string on the E9 neck, so in the interest in making the cabinet lighter it did not matter if the pedal stop bar prohibits placing a bellcrank on a cross shaft directly in line with the first string finger. Of course I am talking doubleneck guitars because there were no single neck Emmons guitars in the old days.
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Bud Harger


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Belton, Texas by way of Baton Rouge, Louisiana
Post  Posted 3 Mar 2021 2:07 pm     Thanks, Chris.
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Surprised Your knowledge of these great guitars is very impressive and I thank you for passing that knowledge on to the rest of us.

I have played Emmons Push-Pull since 1973. I love these guitars.

Best personal regards.

Bud Harger
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George Duncan Sypert

 

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Colo Spgs, Co, USA
Post  Posted 3 Mar 2021 5:51 pm    
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Hello Bud. Glad it got warmer down there.

George
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Bud Harger


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Belton, Texas by way of Baton Rouge, Louisiana
Post  Posted 4 Mar 2021 5:05 am     Hey, George.
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So good to here from you.

Let’s get together and pick sometime soon.

Best personal regards.

Bud
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