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Topic: Hex nuts not easily accessible from changer end |
Derek Blalock
From:
Birmingham, Alabama, USA
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Posted 28 Dec 2020 4:09 pm |
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Picked up this old VERY DIRTY storage unit steel specifically to make my first project. It’s presumably a build someone did in the 70’s from mostly sho-bud parts. My problem is that at the changer end the top hex tuners are not easily accessible from the outside.
Is this a design flaw from the builder? Is there any simple(ish) way to adjust or reset?
(I realized I only had pictures one of each set of strings- problem is the same on both) |
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Jerry Overstreet
From:
Louisville Ky
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Posted 28 Dec 2020 4:20 pm
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Maybe ball end hex wrench.
Otherwise, if you can't reconfigure the pulls, notch out the tuning window. Don't see any other possibilities. |
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Charley Bond
From:
Inola, OK, USA
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Posted 28 Dec 2020 4:30 pm Make the hole bigger
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Take the guitar to a machine shop that has a vertical mill & let them make the hole bigger. It will look like it came that way.
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David Ball
From:
North Carolina High Country
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Posted 28 Dec 2020 4:40 pm Re: Make the hole bigger
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| Charley Bond wrote: |
| Take the guitar to a machine shop that has a vertical mill & let them make the hole bigger. It will look like it came that way. |
I agree. Shouldn't cost much and would take care of the problem.
Dave |
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Derek Blalock
From:
Birmingham, Alabama, USA
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Posted 28 Dec 2020 4:49 pm
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| Think they could do it without me removing that piece of the guitar? |
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David Ball
From:
North Carolina High Country
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Posted 28 Dec 2020 5:44 pm
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| Derek Blalock wrote: |
| Think they could do it without me removing that piece of the guitar? |
Not likely.
Dave |
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Larry Dering
From:
Missouri, USA
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Posted 28 Dec 2020 7:11 pm
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| Could you use nylon spacers or a different hex nut that extends beyond the end plate? BMI tuning nuts are extended that way. |
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Derek Blalock
From:
Birmingham, Alabama, USA
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Posted 28 Dec 2020 7:13 pm
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| Larry, I think it’s hard to tell from the picture but the problem with that is that the nut would hit metal. The opening is not large enough to adjust the top row from straight on. |
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Jim Palenscar
From:
Oceanside, Calif, USA
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Posted 28 Dec 2020 9:33 pm
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| Depending on how the rods are fixed to the bellcranks,racks, etc. do what Larry was recommending- use some spacers between the changer and the hex part to get them to get to where you can see them. |
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Bobby D. Jones
From:
West Virginia, USA
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Posted 28 Dec 2020 11:12 pm
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With only the pictures to go by.
Check under the ends of changer shaft pillow blocks. In the 1 picture it looks like there is thick shims under the pillow blocks. If they could be removed, That may cure the problem. But, Then the strings may be to close or touch the pickup.
The end plate would have to be removed if you take it to a machine shop, To get it in the milling machine. If you just took it to a machine shop they may charge shop time to remove the end plate to machine it.
Is there a name on the guitar or markings? |
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Barry Coker
From:
Bagley Alabama, USA
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Posted 29 Dec 2020 3:05 am
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Looks like you could drill holes to line up with those two or three tuner nuts like the ones on old Push Pulls.
Good luck
Barry
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Ron Pruter
From:
Arizona, USA
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Posted 29 Dec 2020 7:38 pm
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If looks don't count, stuff rags around the visible parts and take a dremel tool to it. I'd probably use the sanding drum bit, and buy extra sleeves. RP
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Bob Cox
From:
Buckeye State
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Posted 31 Dec 2020 11:10 am end plate
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| Take it off and file it down in a vice. It wont take but a few passes. Be sure and line vice with a rag. |
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Bobby D. Jones
From:
West Virginia, USA
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Posted 31 Dec 2020 7:29 pm
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If you just want to set it up and tune it.
Cover the hole with cloth so you can remove all chips.
Clamp a 1/2 inch by thickness of the end plate aluminum bar to the edge of the end plate,over the problem screws. Center punch on edge of end plate. Then drill 1/4" pilot hole then 1/2" hole. over each screw.This would give you a neat half moon cut that would allow allen wrench to access the adjustment screws.
Then turn guitar up and remove cloth and chips, Blow it out with air hose.
There is a steel that used hex wrench instead of nylon tuning nuts. They had a threaded hole adapter that attached to the bell crank and at the bell crank is where the actual adjustment took place. |
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