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Topic: Zane Beckers, Take note! |
Curt Langston
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Chuck McGill
From: An hour from Memphis and 2 from Nashville, R.I.P.
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Posted 11 Jun 2006 10:42 am
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Curt. You should put this post with the others in the huge ZB file. Yes the D10 looks good to me too. Thanks for the info
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Kevin Hatton
From: Buffalo, N.Y.
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Posted 11 Jun 2006 1:29 pm
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That ZB is about $600.00 over priced, thats why no one is bidding on it. A friend of mine just bought a ZB off ebay that was near a wreck when he got it. Not even playable. [This message was edited by Kevin Hatton on 11 June 2006 at 02:30 PM.] |
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Curt Langston
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Posted 11 Jun 2006 4:10 pm
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It seems overpriced to me as well, but I don't know anything about Zane Beck guitars. Someone may try to snipe it at the last minute though. You can get a good used, modern guitar ready to play, for the starting bid on this one. |
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steve takacs
From: beijing, china via pittsburgh (deceased)
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Posted 11 Jun 2006 4:46 pm
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Kevin, I'm curious, why do you think this ZB is worth just under $800? From something you have seen, do you think the underside mechanism is shot or is it based on the example of the one your friend bought? Thanks, steve t |
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Kevin Hatton
From: Buffalo, N.Y.
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Posted 11 Jun 2006 6:58 pm
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Steve, as some of you know here I am a diehard ZB player. I've learned alot about them over the last five years. I've owned a few of them and have seen enough of them to get a pretty good idea of whats out there. I also learned to work on them and what makes them play in decent shape. Nearly every used ZB I've seen has been in very poor regulated condition, and more than half that I've seen can be classified as trashed and not playable accurately. They are like working on a 62 Jaquar. When they are put right they can be enjoyable. The mechanics are limited to begin with, and most of the time the stock knee levers are WAY out of place for ergonomic comfort. Most only came with two from the factory. Still, if they are approached logicly with knowledge and some customizing they can be made to play smooth and accurate. Like a Sho-Bud finger tip I guess.
That being said, I would be very leery of any
used ZB out there if I wasn't a ZB player and didn't know how to work on them and couldn't see the guitar in person. Many of thesed guitars have been severely neglected. I know two people in the last year that went out on a limb and bought one and then brought them to me. Both were severely disapointed at the amount of restoration that it took to put the guitars right. There are exceptions, but this is what I've found. Other players come see my ZB which is in restored condition and think thats what a ZB is. Its only after a great amount of work that they get to that point. From what I know, thats about what I think those guitars are worth. [This message was edited by Kevin Hatton on 11 June 2006 at 08:01 PM.] |
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steve takacs
From: beijing, china via pittsburgh (deceased)
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Posted 12 Jun 2006 2:42 am
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Kevin; yours is a well reasoned argument based on extenisve experience. Guess I was lucky when I purchased mine from Bill Buntin a few years ago as it was in excellent condition and the mechanics worked well. It can be viewed in an old Forum Buy and Sell thread or on Ricky's House of Wood site. That being said, I doubt I'd have the ability or the courage to try to take the ZB apart to make any changes. Funny you should liken it to an old Jaguar. Back in the early 1980s I owned an old Mark II in Malaysia but never did any work on it myself choosing to let the experts work their magic. Same goes for the ZB. Many thanks for the response. If I need any ZB help, I will know where to turn. steve t |
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Bill Hatcher
From: Atlanta Ga. USA
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Posted 12 Jun 2006 8:24 am
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Despite the possible pitfalls of buying a ZB Custom guitar, I think that the beauty of the instuments in the fact that they are of beautiful solid woods and have a distinct tone and some music mystic add a whole lot to the value of these. This instrument on ebay seems to be worth what is being asked for as a bid has been made on it.
I think the days of $800 D10 ZB custom guitars in good original condition are way past us.
62 Jaguars bring pretty good money these days too. |
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Pat Kelly
From: Wentworthville, New South Wales, Australia
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Posted 13 Jun 2006 4:14 pm
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While I respect Kevin's contibution to both this thread and The Forum generally, it is possible that his experience comes from a biased sample. People buying an instrument that they have trouble with will naturally seek help. Kevin would be a likely person to seek help from. So it is possible that he will see more instruments in poor condition.
I paid $US1200 for a d11 over two years ago - sight unseen and am very happy with it. Another player from Melbourne who posts here paid a similar amount and seems contented. There have been several posts on the ZB thread of purchases in the 1100 - 1400 range. The buyers seem happy and the pics have been nice. I don't seem to recall many double necked ZBs going off for $800 either. The recent sale on e-bay for under 300 seems to be an aberration. The concencus seems to be that it was a bit of a hybrid anyway.
Pat[This message was edited by Pat Kelly on 13 June 2006 at 05:16 PM.] |
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Wayne D. Clark
From: Montello Wisconsin, USA
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Posted 13 Jun 2006 6:27 pm
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With 1 day and 23 hours yet to go, the bid stands at $1395.00. Tune in Thursday Evening for the Thrilling Conclution.
MSA D10 8/2 |
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