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Topic: Emmons S-10 PP fingers ? |
Doug Jones
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Oregon & Florida
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Posted 9 Jun 2006 9:36 am |
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| A friend has a S-10 Emmons PP missing a bunch of parts, most particularly the changer. Did Emmons use E9 or C6 PP fingers for their S-10's? Thanks, DJ. |
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Henry Matthews
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Texarkana, Ark USA
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Posted 9 Jun 2006 12:50 pm
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| Doug, as far as I know, the e 9th and c6th were the same, of coure on the same model guitar like a cuttail, or bolt on etc. Get changer parts for that particular model and they will all be the same. Bobbe Seymore that's here on the forum will probably have the parts. |
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Jay Dee Maness
From:
North Hills, CA
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Posted 9 Jun 2006 1:10 pm
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| Changer fingers on E9th push-pull guitars, are longer than on C6th. JayDee. |
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Bill Ford
From:
Graniteville SC Aiken
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Posted 9 Jun 2006 1:29 pm
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There's an S12 PP changer for sale in amps, and acc for sale...Good price.
Bill |
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Doug Jones
From:
Oregon & Florida
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Posted 9 Jun 2006 1:46 pm
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| I saw the 12 string C6 changer post and that's what prompted my inquiry. I'll get my friend to measure the thickness of his S-10. If it is 1/4" less than the front of a D-10 my assumption would be to use C6 fingers. I'll also wait for more posts. Thanks, DJ |
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Henry Matthews
From:
Texarkana, Ark USA
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Posted 9 Jun 2006 5:18 pm
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| Hey J.D., I didn't know that. Is it just on a single 10 p/p or are the double necks that way also? I sure hope the d-10's aren't that way because when I took my p/p apart, I believe I put the c6th changer on e9th and e9th on c6th because I figured it had less wear. When I had them off, I couldn't tell the difference but didn't look that close.---Henry |
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Pat Burns
From:
Branchville, N.J. USA
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Posted 10 Jun 2006 4:13 am
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..phew...I feel a little better, Henry...I just checked your profile to make sure you weren't an airline mechanic...
..and I'm not due for a liver transplant anytime soon...  [This message was edited by Pat Burns on 10 June 2006 at 05:14 AM.] |
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Henry Matthews
From:
Texarkana, Ark USA
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Posted 10 Jun 2006 6:51 am
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That's funny Pat. Actually, I'm a brain surgeon and I take p/p's apart for past time.
I did check over my changers and they were exactly the same but maybe my guitar is different or has been modified with the same changer on both necks. |
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Lynn Stafford
From:
Ridgefield, WA USA
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Posted 10 Jun 2006 9:33 am
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One reason the E9 fingers need to be longer, is so that the screws will line up with the through holes in the end plate. There are also several other reasons that they are longer (and slightly different) as well. Think about the raise and drop rod alignment. All the bell cranks are the same length and are attached to cross bars that are all mounted at a common height. The necks are at different elevations, so there needs to be several variations in design. Take a look at the two angle drop rod guide brackets the return springs attach to. The one for the E9 neck is taller.
Lynn[This message was edited by Lynn Stafford on 10 June 2006 at 03:46 PM.] |
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Erv Niehaus
From:
Litchfield, MN, USA
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Posted 10 Jun 2006 11:33 am
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Jay Dee and Lynn are correct.
I just had to switch the changers around on a p/p I'm working on as I had them in backwards.
Erv |
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Doug Jones
From:
Oregon & Florida
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Posted 10 Jun 2006 5:59 pm
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| So any ideas which finger Emmons used on their S-10 PPs? |
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Lynn Stafford
From:
Ridgefield, WA USA
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Posted 11 Jun 2006 7:03 am
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Doug,
Take a look at the drop rod angle bracket by the changer on the guitar in question. If it is 1" tall, it's an E9 changer. If it's 3/4" tall it's a C6 changer.
I hope that helps,
Lynn |
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