Newbie Copedent for Justice S10 Jr

Rick Ortega · From: Texas, USA

Ron over at Justice will be making my S10 Jr 3x4 for mid-December approximate delivery. Here is the copedent:

Since I haven't had a PSG, I'm looking for comments on my pedal lever arrangement. Ron at Justice has been nothing short of great.

Thanks for your input - love the forum.
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Rick Ortega
Clear Lake TX

James Sission · From: Sugar Land,Texas USA

That's a pretty standard setup if there is such a thing. Almost all lessons or workshops will be easy to use with it.

Rick Ortega · From: Texas, USA

James Sission · From: Sugar Land,Texas USA

I do when we can play. These days I'm limited to playing in church.

Henry Brooks · From: Los Gatos, California, USA

For myself, I would lower string 5 a half step,Bb, on the RKL. Most guys would also lower string 10 along with string 5 and put it on a vertical lever. It is best to have this change located so it can be used with the lever that lowers the E's. You can get the most used function of your RKL, raising string 7 a half step plus the A and B pedals, 2 frets back with B pedal and your LKR, lowering the E's, using the standard picking groups, 3,4,5/4,5,6/5,6,8/6,8,10. Both of these changes make a dominate seventh chord by raising the sixth to the flat seven. Lowering the 5th and 10th strings makes a 9th chord two frets back from the no pedals chord. Example, 3rd fret no pedal is a G chord and 2 frets back at the 1st fret using the lever that lowers 5 gives you a G9, a dominate seventh plus the ninth. To be honest you can do the same thing using the A pedal but lowering the B's has two leading tones while the A pedal only has one. If your guitar can split-tune lowering string 5 along with pressing the A pedal makes a augmented chord a 9+5 or a minor chord with both the A and B pedals. Finally, lowering string 5 with E's lowered works the same as the standard lever on C6th.
Henry

K Maul · From: Hadley, NY/Hobe Sound, FL

On RKL I’d consider raising 1 a whole step and 2 a half as well.
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James Sission · From: Sugar Land,Texas USA

BTW Rick, you will NOT be disappointed in that Justice guitar.

richard burton · From: Britain

Most steels lower string 2 a full tone on RKR, so your chart would say -2, not -1, to be standard

Rick Ortega · From: Texas, USA

Rick Ortega · From: Texas, USA

Rick Ortega · From: Texas, USA

Rick Ortega · From: Texas, USA

Thanks for the info guys. I'll check with Ron tomorrow.
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Rick Ortega
Clear Lake TX

Dave Hopping · From: Aurora, Colorado

Most of the steels that lower string 2(often on RKL) a whole-step will have a "detent" at the half-step point. The half-step lower is extremely useful,and my main steels only lower the 2nd a half-step.

Jacek Jakubek · From: Mississauga, Ontario, Canada

That looks like an excellent setup and you can't go wrong with it as it is. I wouldn't worry about changing anything because you have the main changes there.

If you get the steel and after a while of playing you find out you absolutely need to change something, you can learn to do it, it's not that hard (steel guitar forum guys will help.)

Rick Ortega · From: Texas, USA

Joseph Carlson · From: Grass Valley, California, USA

This is pretty much the standard basic copedent, if there were such a thing - http://steelguitar.com/reqS10Tuning.html

Steel players are tinkerers by nature, so no one seems to stay with any one setup for too long, especially newer players.

Just my 2 cents, I'm sure others will chime in.

Good luck with your new steel!

Rick Ortega · From: Texas, USA

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