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Topic: super re-entrant 12 |
Paul McEvoy
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Baltimore, USA
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Posted 24 Oct 2020 12:14 pm |
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Just wondering instead of practicing...
Does or did anyone ever do a double 6 string tuning on a 12 string lap, like C6 and E9 next to each other or something similar to that? Not a universal tuning but basically a double 6 made into a 12?
I guess the muting issues would be pretty extreme.
Just popped into my head. |
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Jerry Wagner
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California, USA
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Posted 24 Oct 2020 4:35 pm
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| Not me. But if I'm not mistaken, I believe Bobby Black plays a 12 string with the following tuning (Low to Hi): Bb,D,F,A,C,E,G,A,C,E,B,D. And I think the bottom 2 and top 2 strings are re-entrant. Reece Anderson played a 10-string tuned (Low to Hi): Bb,C,E,G,A,C,E,G,B,D with the top 2 re-entrant. |
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Fred Treece
From:
California, USA
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Posted 25 Oct 2020 11:05 am
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E9 Lower 6: BDEF#G#B
C6: CEGACE
Rather stringing them up as re-entrants, look what you get if you string up in order of pitch low to high:
B C D E F# G G# A B C E
That’s only 11. The 12th string could be a low A or high D, or anything really.
This has some similarity to the Alkire E-harp tuning, with those chromatics in the middle. But all your C6 and E9 straight bar stuff is still there, however spaced a little differently. Plus, all 7 diatonic triads in the Key of G are there. I might try this one myself, if I ever get a 12 string. Thanks for the idea  |
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Gene Tani
From:
Pac NW
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Posted 25 Oct 2020 6:03 pm
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For some reason this reminds me of how some Chapman sticks are tuned, with 2 sets of strings tuned high on the outside with bass strings in the middle
https://i0.wp.com/joerega.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/chapman-stick.png?ssl=1
Muting issues: you mean getting the string tops level?
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Paul McEvoy
From:
Baltimore, USA
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Posted 25 Oct 2020 6:43 pm
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| Just that between C6 and E9 you have g g# and a so the risk of picking the wrong string or having one ringing out seems magnified. |
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Paul McEvoy
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Baltimore, USA
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Posted 4 Nov 2020 9:38 am
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| I'm actually kind of surprised no one has tried this sort of thing. I'm wondering now what would be the advantage of a double 6 vs just having two six string tunings side by side on one 12 string neck? |
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Bill McCloskey
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Posted 4 Nov 2020 12:08 pm
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| I tried it on a 14 stringer I have. Doesn't work too well. problem is the thicker gauge of the lower strings on the upper 6 get in the way when trying to move around the neck. |
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Allan Revich
From:
Victoria, BC
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Posted 5 Nov 2020 11:11 am
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| Paul McEvoy wrote: |
| I'm actually kind of surprised no one has tried this sort of thing. I'm wondering now what would be the advantage of a double 6 vs just having two six string tunings side by side on one 12 string neck? |
Paul, we are all waiting for YOU to try it!
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Current Tunings:
6 String | G – G B D G B D
7 String | G6 – e G B D G B D (re-entrant)
https://papadafoe.com/lap-steel-tuning-database |
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Paul McEvoy
From:
Baltimore, USA
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Posted 5 Nov 2020 6:39 pm
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| You might be waiting for a while! But I have been thinking about making some cheap steels out of pine so who knows. Certainly would have a lot of possibilities. |
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Paul Strojan
From:
California, USA
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Posted 5 Nov 2020 7:40 pm
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| If you are going to combine tunings it makes a lot of sense to combine related tunings together. I have a 10 String tuned to E13 B, D, E, F#, G#, B, C#, E, G#, F# |
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