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Topic: MSA Classic S12 |
Kenneth Burris
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Indiana, USA
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Posted 20 Oct 2020 12:10 pm |
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 I have acquired a pedal steel from a buddy of mine for free but I have no idea how to set it up to play country and it is missing some parts it has 5 pedals and no knee levers I just would really love to get this steel up and playing like it's suppose to serial number 1c338
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Bobby D. Jones
From:
West Virginia, USA
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Posted 20 Oct 2020 7:45 pm
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One great looking MSA Classic S12.
If you added knee levers and set the guitar up Extended E9th would have a lot of Country Music in it.
PSGparts.com should have the parts to add knee levers
Good Luck on this MSA project. |
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Paul Wade
From:
mundelein,ill
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Posted 21 Oct 2020 5:25 am E9th s-12
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here you go. this would be a good start:
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Kenneth Burris
From:
Indiana, USA
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Posted 21 Oct 2020 7:14 am
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Thanks so much !!!!!
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Jerry Overstreet
From:
Louisville Ky
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Posted 22 Oct 2020 2:11 pm
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All due respect to Paul, I don't think that Emmons set up is a very common 12 string setup. I believe that is Buddy's E13th pedal setup. I don't know of many players who use that as a basic tuning.
Here is a more common chart for S12 extended E9th setup. Some players would reverse the LKR and RKL but either is workable within this tuning. A couple other minor tweaks might also be in order.
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This is the tuning I have settled on at this time.
John, I may in the future add the E to F# on the 4th string.
I have it on my other 10 string steels on RKR.
I don't like 1/2 stops, so I left them off this steel.
Don
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Generally, the extended E9 tuning is the same as the 10 string E9 with 2 added lower strings, G# and a low E.
Since your guitar has no knee levers, you could just play it as is or set up pedals 4 and 5 for the E lowers and F raises for two footed playing.
Ideally, the 4 knee lever additions would certainly give you all you need for the common country playing you mention. It would be costly however to add 4 knees plus you would need to know what they are going to do and where they are going.
Unless you can find these knee lever kits used, you can figure at least $500 to add new kits. That's if you do the work yourself. It could be a major chore unless you have the proper parts, tools and understanding of the mechanism[s]. Your pics show several unused bell cranks, so you would just need rods there.
Not my intention to discourage you rather to try and give some insight as to what you would be in for if you should tackle adding 4 knee levers on this guitar. I understand your investment so far is minimal, so maybe worth the upgrades.
I flipped you photo right side up...hope that's OK.
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Ian Rae
From:
Redditch, England
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Posted 22 Oct 2020 7:09 pm
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Rather than have LKL raise the 12th string to F like the other Es, I would lower it to C#.
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Larry Bressington
From:
Nebraska
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Posted 23 Oct 2020 5:11 am
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Great steel, had one for years, never broke strings and will last a lifetime.
E's lowered is minimal for knee lever, you could add one lever very affordably and that would give you lots and lots of mileage. Micheal @ Steel guitar parts has them and you would not need much for the E's lowered function 4 and 8 strings.
If i was starting out new, i'd remove the two lower strings and pedals 4 and 5 for a few years and get through the standard 10 strings and then move up, that would lower the frustration level a few notches, keep the co-ped very simple and basic, until you can add more levers, Tune the 2nd string to D and use the E's lower lever for the D# note...You will have a lot of fun with this lovely guitar. |
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