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Francesco Porcu
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Posted 16 Oct 2020 1:54 pm |
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| Hi guys I'm looking for a digital effect pedal to use with a steel bar that perfectly simulates the sound of the pedabro, have you ever experienced anything besides the classic common pedals that are used with the plastic bar? Maybe some technician has built some that you have experienced ? I am looking for a digital pedal perhaps powered at 9v to be used with a steel bar. Thanks to all those who will leave a response on the matter. Greetings from Italy Francesco |
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Marty Broussard
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Broussard, Louisiana, USA
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Posted 16 Oct 2020 2:10 pm
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I’ve been looking for an upgrade to the typical pedals. I even asked a fellow steeler if he’d tried modeling a real Dobro via his Kemper. Haven’t heard from him yet.
Hope there is good info that comes from your inquiry.
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Jack Stoner
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Kansas City, MO
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Posted 17 Oct 2020 2:18 am
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The Tom Bradshaw unit sounds about the same with regular steel bar or with the Goodrich MatchBro plastic bar.
I have a MatchBro and also had a Bradshaw unit so I was able to compare. Tom is out of stock now but I think Tom is going to have another batch made. |
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K Maul
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Hadley, NY/Hobe Sound, FL
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Posted 17 Oct 2020 4:21 am
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I did a show once that Big E was on with the Everlys. They did a Jimmie Rodgers tune and he played the C6 neck with a very credible dobro sound. He used a Matchbro. I spoke with him about it and asked if he used the plastic bar. He smiled a little and said
“Naahh....”
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Francesco Porcu
From:
Italy
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Posted 17 Oct 2020 5:25 am Pedabro Effect Pedal
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Thank you for your answers, but on you tube or at least there are no videos where one understands how MXR with steel bar or Goodrich MatchBro sounds, there are no videos where one can see hear and get an idea, since the sound it is a matter of personal taste, on a site there are only small audio files of how the MXR sounds but it has nothing to do with the pedabro sound even in the distance, I have an Aura Jerry Douglas fishman that I normally use with my dobro and I tried it with my steel and I have not found any compromise neither of regulation nor of microphone to get to an optimal sound as pedabro. I saw the video of Travis Toy playing the MSA on his new D10 and in the 6-string neck he uses an Aura Jerry Douglas and has a spatial sound but has two pick ups designed by fischman for 6-string guitar to get an excellent response with the pedal Jerry Douglas, but that pedal used in my steel with chrome BL705 pickup the response is poor. I hope that sooner or later some technician will come up who builds a small pedal even as MXR but that with the steel bar has a sound very faithful to the pedabro, a pedal that has the possibility of adjusting tone volume presence .. Thanks to everything again Francesco
ps: Sorry for my english but i translate with google translator. |
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Marty Broussard
From:
Broussard, Louisiana, USA
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Posted 17 Oct 2020 6:36 am
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Francesco,
You might try the Boss GE7 graphic equalizer pedal set with the sliders to create a pedabro sound. If you need the position of the sliders I will post a picture for you. I’m only suggesting that pedal because you have the ability to adjust the sliders from their normal position to compensate for different pups/guitars. I have the MXR that Tom Bradshaw sells and it’s a great pedal, but I somehow do better fine tuning the Boss pedal. (Maybe I’m a visual learner?). Note, the Boss pedal is a little noisy for studio work, but I get by with it on stage. Also, there is a Mod available to make it quite—-look at Analogman’s website for resources.
Oh, I use a standard steel bar, not plastic. I’m diligent about keeping my road rig small/simple/flexible.
Note: As stated earlier I’m happy that you created this thread. I would like to have something that sounds more genuine. Travis Toy’s rig is probably the best that can be had currently, because at his level I’m sure he would be utilizing something different if it was plausible. You may remember that I asked a friend if the Kemper could be utilized to create a superior model—-I feel that if that was possible PF, TT, BB, TW, and the other “Big Players†would be using it. That’s just my opinion.
Let me know if you need a picture of the Boss settings.
Take care,
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Former steel guitarist for Tracy Byrd & The Byrd Dawgs, Mark Chesnut & The New South Band, Mark Nesler & Texas Tradition, Wayne Toups & ZydeCajun, Belton Richard & The Musical Aces
"Technique is really the elimination of the unnecessary..it is a constant effort to avoid any personal impediment or obstacle to achieve the smooth flow of energy and intent" Yehudi Menuhin |
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Erv Niehaus
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Litchfield, MN, USA
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Posted 17 Oct 2020 6:54 am
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And then there's the "Bo-Bro" where Bobby Seymour already did that for you with the Boss GE-7. 
Erv |
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Marty Broussard
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Broussard, Louisiana, USA
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Posted 17 Oct 2020 7:00 am
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Erv, I never saw a Bo-Bro. Can the sliders be adjusted?
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Former steel guitarist for Tracy Byrd & The Byrd Dawgs, Mark Chesnut & The New South Band, Mark Nesler & Texas Tradition, Wayne Toups & ZydeCajun, Belton Richard & The Musical Aces
"Technique is really the elimination of the unnecessary..it is a constant effort to avoid any personal impediment or obstacle to achieve the smooth flow of energy and intent" Yehudi Menuhin |
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Erv Niehaus
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Litchfield, MN, USA
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Posted 17 Oct 2020 7:09 am
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Marty,
No, Bobby set them, broke 'em off and put a plate over them. 
Erv |
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Jack Stoner
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Kansas City, MO
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Posted 17 Oct 2020 7:09 am
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| We compared a Bo-Bro with my MatchBro. No contest, the guy that had the Bo-Bro sold it shortly after we did the tests. |
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Erv Niehaus
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Litchfield, MN, USA
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Posted 17 Oct 2020 7:20 am
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Jack,
I agree, the Match Bro is the Cadillac of Dobro effects.
I think Buddy Emmons helped design it.
Erv |
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John Macy
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Rockport TX/Denver CO
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Posted 17 Oct 2020 8:35 am
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I own all of them, but my fave is the one built into the Telonics amp.
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Rockport, TX
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Tom Bradshaw
From:
Walnut Creek, California, USA
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Posted 17 Oct 2020 8:58 am My MXR Resonator Pedals
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In a month or two, the second production run of my Resonator pedals will be completed. I'm calling it the "Resonator II". I've increased the output volume and will offer it with a toggle switch or a stomp switch (buyer's choice). I'm also supplying a tone bar made of the same material (and weight) as the original Goodrich MatchBro pedals came with (which was actually designed by Buddy as mentioned here).
For those who question whether they would like the sound produced by my Resonator, all you have to do is send it back for a refund if you feel disappointed (my policy with everything I sell!). My first production run (of 500) sold out about a year ago. Truthfully, about 10 of those units were returned. Not a problem for me! Customer satisfaction has always been my practice.
I'll be notifying everyone here when I can ship them. If you have any other questions about it, feel free to post them here or send me an email: tommybradshaw@gmail.com. ...Tom |
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John Sluszny
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Brussels, Belgium
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Francesco Porcu
From:
Italy
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Posted 17 Oct 2020 10:39 am Pedabro Effect Pedal
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| Hi guys, thank you all for your answers and personal impressions, Jack you talk a lot about your MatchBro but it is no longer on the market and I don't see any video on you tube where I could listen and hear what sound it has using the steel bar, in my opinion it is also right that a steelere must see and listen to a minimum before buying, don't you think? You all have a great experience of steel and effects for steel and listening to you all is a very big thing for me and I thank you all for your interventions, but before buying I would like to see maybe a demonstration video where the steelere with a steel bar plays and demonstrates the sound that can come out of that pedal, Tom about your new pedals that you talk about are used with a plastic bar I guess, I live in my lives with my tribute to Dire Straits I would like only use my steel bar for a matter of weight and habit by now, I tried the famous plastic bar with metal inside that I bought from Jerry Roller but it feels too light it almost escaped my hands, I would rather find a pedal of size contained as your MXR with the various tone adjusters etc but to use with my steel bar, Tom if you can make a small demonstration video with the steel bar it would be perfect at least cap isco and everyone understands what tone you get, if this is perfect I would buy one immediately to use in my concerts. Thank you very much Francesco |
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Francesco Porcu
From:
Italy
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Posted 17 Oct 2020 10:42 am Pedabro Effect Pedal
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Hi John yes I had seen in the past the videos of that guy but he doesn't say what he uses, maybe it will be a pedal built by him, the sound is pretty good indeed very close to the pedabro. |
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Jack Stoner
From:
Kansas City, MO
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Posted 17 Oct 2020 1:30 pm
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Francesco, e-mail me.
I have two short samples I made and I'll send them to you. One with the MatchBro and the other with the Tom Bradshaw MXR pedal. |
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Francesco Porcu
From:
Italy
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Posted 17 Oct 2020 3:01 pm Pedabro Effect Pedal
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| Jack Stoner wrote: |
Francesco, e-mail me.
I have two short samples I made and I'll send them to you. One with the MatchBro and the other with the Tom Bradshaw MXR pedal. |
Hi Jack I sent you an email, thank you very much for what you did for me. Francesco |
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Michael Hartz
From:
Decorah, Iowa, USA
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Posted 20 Oct 2020 2:22 pm
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| The Boss GE-7 eq pedal (Bobro) sounds pretty good but————if you then run it into a Fishman Spectrum Aura DI pedal set on a resophonic image then that makes it sound awesome. Much more realistic. I then profiled this thru my Kemper Profiler and the end result was so good I ended up selling the Boss eq and Fishman aura pedals. I posted the profiled rig on the Kemper rig exchange. Just search for dobro. |
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Francesco Porcu
From:
Italy
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Posted 21 Oct 2020 1:15 am
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| Michael Hartz wrote: |
| The Boss GE-7 eq pedal (Bobro) sounds pretty good but————if you then run it into a Fishman Spectrum Aura DI pedal set on a resophonic image then that makes it sound awesome. Much more realistic. I then profiled this thru my Kemper Profiler and the end result was so good I ended up selling the Boss eq and Fishman aura pedals. I posted the profiled rig on the Kemper rig exchange. Just search for dobro. |
hello Michael thank you for writing a comment of your experience in researching the pedabro sound but I don't use kemper and I don't know how to use your audio rig, after all I have the Aura Jerry Douglas fishman that I use regularly with my dobro, I tried with it but the sound has nothing to do with what I am looking for that is absolutely more realistic to the sound of the pedabre, I don't know if there is a difference between the spectrum or the Aura Jerry Douglas I should try it. best regards Francesco  |
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Per Berner
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Skovde, Sweden
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David Spires
From:
Millersport, OH
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Posted 21 Oct 2020 6:39 am
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Match-Bro...
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David Spires
From:
Millersport, OH
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Posted 21 Oct 2020 7:08 am
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I don't know how the images in the Fishman Aura products are created, but I've really gone down the rabbit hole about the whole process. I'm happy to share the methodology I came up with:
The ToneDexter opened my ears to what was possible to improve my direct Dobro tone. I made an impulse response of the ToneDexter (in Kemper terms, I profiled the ToneDexter). Then, I did some fancy EQ matching between tracks I made playing the same passages on each instrument (Dobro, Pedal Steel).
Essentially, ended up with an EQ-ed Impulse Response that I could load into my Line 6 HX Stomp that gives my Pedal Steel a dobro-type tone. Highly intensive process, lots of trial-n-error, and I think the success lies in doing it to your specific instrument/pickups.
This YouTube clip was recorded plugged into an amp (I was just goofing around), which isn't ideal at all. A direct signal sounds far better.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0o1Y0IFG2uc
I love technology, and so much is possible today,
David Spires
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Michael Hartz
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Decorah, Iowa, USA
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Posted 21 Oct 2020 8:36 am
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| Francesco Porcu wrote: |
| Michael Hartz wrote: |
| The Boss GE-7 eq pedal (Bobro) sounds pretty good but————if you then run it into a Fishman Spectrum Aura DI pedal set on a resophonic image then that makes it sound awesome. Much more realistic. I then profiled this thru my Kemper Profiler and the end result was so good I ended up selling the Boss eq and Fishman aura pedals. I posted the profiled rig on the Kemper rig exchange. Just search for dobro. |
hello Michael thank you for writing a comment of your experience in researching the pedabro sound but I don't use kemper and I don't know how to use your audio rig, after all I have the Aura Jerry Douglas fishman that I use regularly with my dobro, I tried with it but the sound has nothing to do with what I am looking for that is absolutely more realistic to the sound of the pedabre, I don't know if there is a difference between the spectrum or the Aura Jerry Douglas I should try it. best regards Francesco |
I would try running the Boss GE-7 eq pedal with the faders alternating into the Fishman Jerry Douglas pedal and try that. |
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Francesco Porcu
From:
Italy
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Posted 22 Oct 2020 10:13 am Pedabro Effect Pedal
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| Thanks Guys for your messages, I will try to try the MXR that listening to all the audio files seems to me the most similar to the PEDABRO the sound I am looking for to use with my steel bar, the Jerry Douglas with all those microphones and possibilities with none of these you can approach the pedabre sound, for now the most realistic sound was obtained by David with the suto try with various solutions, seeing the videos on yuo tube for me it is the most beautiful realistic sound I have ever heard heard above all. |
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