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Topic: undercarriage 'clicking' sounds when pressing on pedals... |
Del Hillier
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British Columbia, Canada
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Posted 5 Oct 2020 2:48 pm |
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When I step on the C pedal on my carter 3x5 there is a lot of movement in the undercarriage. so much so that I get a clicking sound when I press the C. I looked underneath and it seems like the bars running perpendicular to the the rods (bell cranks, etc?) have a lot of movement back and forth. They are getting pulled back and forth in each direction when I use certain levers and pedals...and then when I press C - "click!"
I have owned this guitar for a few years and play quite a bit and this is a new problem I have just started to notice...
I live pretty remotely and can't afford to have my guitar shipped and serviced at this time. But, before I start to look at this problem myself, just wondering if this has been as issue for anyone else too?
Many thanks,
Del
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Del Hillier
From:
British Columbia, Canada
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Posted 5 Oct 2020 4:19 pm
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| Cross rods! That's what they're called. My cross rods are shifting back and forth a lot! Is this an easy fix? |
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Georg Sørtun
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Mandal, Agder, Norway
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Posted 5 Oct 2020 11:44 pm
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Shifting between the front and back side (apron) of the body?
Unless the "click" sound is audible through the PU/amplifier, that's nothing to worry about. Just a sign that there is some slack and that nothing is binding, which is all good.
Of course it can be "fixed" if the "click" becomes too annoying, by balancing the pull-rods and bellcranks to keep the crossrods from shifting that much. Can be finicky work and can easily lead to real problems, and not something anyone would/should attempt unless they know the mechanics inside/out. If the PSG plays just fine otherwise, I'd leave it as is. |
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Ian Rae
From:
Redditch, England
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Posted 6 Oct 2020 12:39 am
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I would be tempted to try something as simple as a rubber band to gently control that endfloat.
You can do no harm trying.
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Gene Tani
From:
Pac NW
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Posted 6 Oct 2020 4:26 am
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Maybe put more nylon/Delrin washers on the ends, something I've been meaning to do. My Carter's cross shafts go from acceptable to a lot of front to back slack on some.
What kind of cross shaft? They changed to solid ones around 2002 but I don't know what differences are aside from weight, I read the older ones had set screws.
You could ask some of the Carter people around here e.g. Al Brisco.
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Dick Wood
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Springtown Texas, USA
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Posted 6 Oct 2020 5:20 am
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One of my Carters and a Dekley started clicking. I found that the return springs were soo close together they were rubbing.Check and see if they aren't doing this and move them ever so slightly away from each other.
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Donny Hinson
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Glen Burnie, Md. U.S.A.
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Posted 6 Oct 2020 5:29 am
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| I'm not sure what kind of guitar you have, but your picture shows a definite problem. It's hard to tell exactly what's going on, but it appears that the knee lever bracket is loose and impinging on the next crossroad. That may be your problem. As far as the crossrods moving back and forth, that normally means the pullrods are pulling at an angle. |
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David Nugent
From:
Gum Spring, Va.
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Posted 6 Oct 2020 5:43 am
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| You might also try weaving sections of foam material between all of the pull rods and the body, (be certain that the material is the proper thickness to remain firmly in place but does not cause binding on the rods.) This may help with the problem as well as diminish undercarriage noise. |
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Donny Hinson
From:
Glen Burnie, Md. U.S.A.
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Posted 6 Oct 2020 8:48 am
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If the crossrods are moving back and forth, something is causing them to do this. I've been playing a long time, and what's obvious to me may not be as obvious to others...so do this: With the guitar completely assembled and upside-down in the case, work the levers and pedals with your hands. You should be able to see exactly what's going on, and also tell precisely where the noise is coming from.  |
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Len Amaral
From:
Rehoboth,MA 02769
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Posted 6 Oct 2020 4:01 pm
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The older Sierra guitars had heat shrink tubing over the pull rods that diminished the sound of the rods if they made contact with each other. The heat shrink tubing was not heated to the rods, just slipped over them.
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