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Topic: Analog Volume Pedal |
Edward Efira
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California, USA
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Posted 20 Sep 2020 5:16 pm |
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I am not happy with the sound i get through my Hilton VP, a little too harsh and yet sterile. I have plugged my Zum straight into my amp and it's warmer, and the sustain is considerably better.
Is there a good analog (passive) VP on the market that wouldn't alter my steel tone?
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Glenn Demichele
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Posted 20 Sep 2020 5:24 pm
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Glenn Taylor's Moyo pedals are great.
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Franklin D10 8&5, Excel D10 8&5. Both amazing guitars! Homemade buffer/overdrive with adjustable 700Hz "Fender" scoop., Moyo pedal, GT-001 effects, 2x TDA7294 80W class AB amps, or 2x BAM200 for stereo. TT12 and BW1501 each in its own closed back wedge. Also NV400 etc. etc... |
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Roy Carroll
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North of a Round Rock
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Posted 21 Sep 2020 4:45 am
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Goodrich Omni and get the best of both worlds with a push of a button, if you want to. Bill Ferguson is the source.
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George Kimery
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Limestone, TN, USA
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Posted 21 Sep 2020 5:06 am Analog volume pedal
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Passive volume pedals are merely a mechanical device to turn the shaft on a pot. The pot is the only thing the guitar sees. Arguments about which brand of passive pedal sounds the best is ridiculous. It's all about which pedal feels the best and and the height that works best for you. Pots last for several years and are easy to replace. Strings don't break unless they are old and rotten, or not properly installed and something is rubbing against them. I've been using pot pedals over 50 years and have never had a string to break.
Back to the subject: I use the old Allen Bradley 500k pots, algorithm taper. I also had one of Tom Bradshaw's Dunlop pots and liked it just fine. The active pedals I have had are two Hilton's, an Omni, tried a Telonics, and currently have a Lehlie 90. I like the Lehlie the best. It is my back-up pedal. My main pedal is a Goodrich 120 with an AB pot. Every pedal I've had are great pedals. All the active pedals sound good, but they sound different than a pot pedal. I hear a clear, cleaner sound with a pot pedal. It cuts through and sounds better with a band. It's a matter of the sound you are looking for. For a lot of players, it's an active pedal all the way. To others, strictly a passive pedal. I like them both and do switch sometimes if I'm not getting the sound I want at a venue.
I'm into the 60's Buddy Emmons tone. That's why I have an Emmons PP guitar with a single coil pickup, pot pedal with an old AB pot, and use effects very sparingly. You just have to go with whatever gives you the sound you're looking for. There is no right or wrong. |
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Jack Stoner
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Kansas City, MO
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Posted 21 Sep 2020 5:13 am
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Any pot pedal will alter the sound to some extent.
I used to have similar troubles and it turned out to be the George L's cables. Switched to "regular" guitar cables and problem solved. |
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John De Maille
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On a Mountain in Upstate Halcottsville, N.Y.
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Posted 21 Sep 2020 11:16 am
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| There are adjustments on the bottom of the Hilton pedal for off point, volume and tone adjust. I'm wondering if you tried to adjust them for a better tone. |
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Edward Efira
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California, USA
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Posted 21 Sep 2020 4:29 pm
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Thank you guys for the replies, very useful and some food for thoughts, (I have a George L cable in my chain and I didn't know about this button under the pedal).
I'll keep you posted, Thanks again
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Edward Efira
From:
California, USA
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Posted 21 Sep 2020 4:54 pm
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| John De Maille wrote: |
| There are adjustments on the bottom of the Hilton pedal for off point, volume and tone adjust. I'm wondering if you tried to adjust them for a better tone. |
My pedal off point is on the right side and I couldn't find any other setting underneath than an allen wrench turnable plug that makes the pedal harder to push in.
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Jack Stoner
From:
Kansas City, MO
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Posted 22 Sep 2020 2:11 am
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| Newer Hilton pedals do not have the adjustment holes like earlier pedals. |
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Gabriel Edell
From:
Hamilton, Ontario
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Posted 22 Sep 2020 3:48 pm
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I have an older Hilton with the attached power supply. I got tired of dealing with the large wall-wart and the size and weight of the pedal, so I got a Moyo. The Moyo is super small and light. But the volume threshold on the Moyo is very touchy. I’m sure I could get used to it with a lot of practice but I prefer the smooth taper of the Hilton.
For what it’s worth, It seems like my old Fender tube amp works better with the Hilton, while my solid state Steel King works better with the Moyo.
Both pedals are very well made and are noiseless.
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Steve Lipsey
From:
Portland, Oregon, USA
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Posted 22 Sep 2020 4:14 pm
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The Moyo taper works a lot better if you accommodate the short length by placing your ankle over the rotating part...it seems more natural to put your toe to the end of the pedal, but try having your toe extend over the edge.
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Glenn Demichele
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(20mi N of) Chicago Illinois, USA
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Posted 22 Sep 2020 8:28 pm
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Exactly Steve! I play in socks (or naked (feet that is)), and I love to wrap my toes around the end.
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Franklin D10 8&5, Excel D10 8&5. Both amazing guitars! Homemade buffer/overdrive with adjustable 700Hz "Fender" scoop., Moyo pedal, GT-001 effects, 2x TDA7294 80W class AB amps, or 2x BAM200 for stereo. TT12 and BW1501 each in its own closed back wedge. Also NV400 etc. etc... |
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