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Topic: "SAND" Let's all have a go |
Jim Mckay
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Posted 29 Aug 2020 1:22 pm |
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Mike Holland from a previous thread "Benny Rogers 'Sand' help !!" suggested maybe we could all do a version of Sand as fun thread.
So hears my version. B11th with a bit of double track in D9th.
Feel free to ad your version 
https://soundcloud.com/jimjam1952/sand
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gary pierce
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Rossville TN
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Posted 29 Aug 2020 4:54 pm
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| Nice job Jim, makes me want to go to the beach somewhere. |
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Tod Johnson
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Posted 29 Aug 2020 6:25 pm
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Ledward is known for slack key but here he is with Sand on steel.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SV15GOijTRw
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Jim Mckay
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Posted 29 Aug 2020 6:33 pm
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Thank's Gary.
Also a good post thanks Tod
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Mike A Holland
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Posted 30 Aug 2020 8:24 am
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Nice one Jim, I particularly liked your overdubbing.
Here is a version I recorded from a couple of years ago.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bk80cGs1TAI
This is from one of Dog Beaumiers excellent Lap Steel books!
Hope you all enjoy,
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Dustin Rhodes
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Owasso OK
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Posted 30 Aug 2020 8:37 am
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| Very cool thread. |
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Nic Neufeld
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Kansas City, Missouri
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Jim Mckay
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New Zealand
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Posted 30 Aug 2020 12:35 pm
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| Mike A Holland wrote: |
Nice one Jim, I particularly liked your overdubbing.
Here is a version I recorded from a couple of years ago.
Hope you all enjoy,
Mike |
Thanks Mike, That was nice.
It was your suggestion on the other thread that inspired me to start this off. 
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Mike A Holland
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Posted 31 Aug 2020 5:14 am
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Very nice Nic...... I like the relaxed playing style and great tone of that guitar. Great work!
Mike |
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Doug Beaumier
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Northampton, MA
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Bill Leff
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Santa Cruz, CA, USA
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Jim Mckay
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New Zealand
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Posted 31 Aug 2020 12:10 pm
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Thanks Nic,Doug and Bill. Great posts
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Keith Aiken
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North Carolina, USA
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Jim Mckay
From:
New Zealand
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Posted 31 Aug 2020 8:11 pm Re: sands
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George De Fretes Played a D6th tuning, but for this one I think he's tuned A11th for the rich 9ths. B11th tuned down a full tone.
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Nic Neufeld
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Posted 1 Sep 2020 6:23 am
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On the G de Fretes version...wow, that's kinda lovely that slow...one theory, with no backing evidence...it may be that the tape was slowed for effect, and that was originally in B11, played in C. The basic form with outro is pretty similar to the Jules ah See form. Cricket overdub was a bit heavy handed, but nice nonetheless. But yeah, it sounds like either detuned B11 to A11, or perhaps just B11 with the tape slowed down as happened in some cases, on purpose or otherwise.
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Nic Neufeld
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Posted 1 Sep 2020 6:40 am Re: sands
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| i don't know if i will ever be able to play sand. |
Sure you will, if you want to. I first heard the song 3 years ago, the same time I picked up the steel guitar...my first attempt recording it was about the same time and it was beyond rough (on a little shortscale Morrell), I should post it but none of your ears deserve that degree of maltreatment.
Here's a helpful resource that I hope Basil won't mind sharing, I think its been shared before:
http://www.waikiki-islanders.com/assets/SAND%20TAB%20ALL.pdf
That's the Jules Ah See version, I'm sure the Jerry Byrd version is about too...
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Jim Mckay
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Posted 1 Sep 2020 11:23 am
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| Nic Neufeld wrote: |
| On the G de Fretes But yeah, it sounds like either detuned B11 to A11, or perhaps just B11 with the tape slowed down as happened in some cases, on purpose or otherwise. |
You could well be right Nic. I did consider that, but I was assuming that A11 a better choice to tune from the de Fretes D6th (or D with added 6th) The top 2 strings already there and the rest tuned down rather than the top ones up.
Depends on his gauges I guess. - Just a maybe
His D6th from Hi to Lo was : D-B-A-F#-D-B-A-F#.
What ever he done he sure was one of the greats'.
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Tod Johnson
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Hawaii, USA
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Posted 2 Sep 2020 10:52 pm
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I love the intro to Sand but not so much the body of it so when I do finally get around to learning it, my plan is to do a personal arrangement that has the intro down at 2 or 3 different places and cut the rest short, in a way that's pleasing to the listener.
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Jerry Gleason
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Posted 3 Sep 2020 12:50 am
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Here's a not very impressive version that I did 11 years ago when I was just getting my feet wet with lap steel (though I'd been playing pedal steel for years). It's the first song I learned on the B11 tuning. It borrows a bit from Jerry Byrd, and a little from Jules Ah See. I'd do it very differently if I were to record it again, now that I know both the instrument and the song better.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iWWLY-BfWBY |
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Hideki Hattori
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Tokyo, Japan
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Posted 3 Sep 2020 2:03 am
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Here’s our live version played with slack key guitarist Pancho Graham on Kaua’i two years ago.
https://youtu.be/ERguIy8vsJw
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Mike A Holland
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United Kingdom
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Posted 3 Sep 2020 5:44 am
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Jerry I remember watching this a few years back when I was thinking about getting into lap steel playing. I thought it was great then and I still do!
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Jim Mckay
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New Zealand
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Posted 3 Sep 2020 12:03 pm
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| Mike A Holland wrote: |
Jerry I remember watching this a few years back when I was thinking about getting into lap steel playing. I thought it was great then and I still do!
Mike |
That same video also inspired me to play sand.
Thanks Jerry
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Steve Marinak
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Man O War Cay, Abaco, Bahamas
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Posted 3 Sep 2020 2:13 pm
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Here's a live version of our trio doing Sand at a recent celebration of life.
I was hesitant to post it, but what the heck...nobody's perfect!
I'm doing my "Benny Rogers" minimalist version here in C6.
https://youtu.be/XAmA3PEsnp8
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Jim Mckay
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New Zealand
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Posted 3 Sep 2020 3:54 pm
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Good to hear Sand played in different tunings'. Certainly doesn't have to be played in B11. C6th is a great tuning and if you drop the G half tone to F# you still have the lovely 9th cords.
Thanks for posting Steve.
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Nic Neufeld
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Posted 3 Sep 2020 4:00 pm
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| Jim Mckay wrote: |
C6th is a great tuning and if you drop the G half tone to F# you still have the lovely 9th cords.
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Yep, my teacher teaches that as a (rootless) D9 tuning.
Great job everybody! I love hearing new takes on it (had never heard the Benny Rogers version until very recently). I saw some of my own earlier videos with my combo (duo I guess) on the song, and I noted how just in the last year, I play it slightly differently now. Definitely one of my favorites. I'd love to hear how Barney Isaacs or Billy Hew Len played it...
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