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Topic: E9 string 7, F# to G#, combos with other levers? |
John McClung
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Olympia WA, USA
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Posted 21 Aug 2020 8:12 am |
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Is the whole tone raise on E9 string 7, F# to G#, commonly used in combo with any other knee levers? To what musical effect? Thanks, found this hard to track down via Search. Thanks, y'all!
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Fred Treece
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California, USA
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Posted 21 Aug 2020 8:55 am
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I don’t know how common it is, but my pedal C raises string 8 a whole step to unison with 7. Then I release C, lower 8 a half step, and raise 7 a whole. So it goes from unison to a 4th. Combine with string 10 for a I - vi type change.
7. 0____0++
8. 0C __ 0-
10. 0____0 |
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Jon Light
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Saugerties, NY
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Posted 21 Aug 2020 10:03 am
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| On 12 string Universal (with no 9th string D to interfere with this) I raise F# > G# on the 0 pedal. It also raises 12th string B > C#. Include the 0 pedal on your A pedal + F lever inversion and you have a strummable major triad on strings 12 thru 3 . |
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Peter Freiberger
From:
California, USA
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Posted 21 Aug 2020 12:28 pm
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This may not exactly be what you were asking, but I have combined the 7 raise with my lever lowering 2 and 9.
As I string 2 lowers to D, 7 goes to G. As I further lower 2 to C#, 7 goes to G# and 9 to C#. I tune the half stops on 2 and 7 to be in tune as I pick up 9, and use an extra lowering rod on 7 and raise rod on 9 to pull them into tune when they reach G# and C#.
One could probably add a string 1 raise to this lever but I do that on a VKL. |
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John McClung
From:
Olympia WA, USA
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Posted 22 Aug 2020 7:54 am
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Thanks for the ideas, Peter! Miss you and the LA gang something fierce!! What chords or useful lines does that yield?
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Steve Leal
From:
Orange CA, USA
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Posted 23 Aug 2020 12:39 pm
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Hi John.
I always wondered why Tom Brumley raised string 10 from B to C# along with raising string 7 from F# to G# on his zero pedal. Do you know why? |
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Bob Hoffnar
From:
Austin, Tx
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Posted 23 Aug 2020 1:11 pm
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One way to look at it is a 2nd raised to a 3rd with pedals open. This is the same motion as the A pedal when pedals are down.
I ended up using it as a unison that I would pull apart in different ways depending on where I wanted to go. Or just play the unison as a super beefed up single string type sound.
I no longer have that change though.
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Peter Freiberger
From:
California, USA
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Posted 23 Aug 2020 5:38 pm
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John, L.A. misses you, too!
I don't know if my lever variation offers anything more besides freeing up another lever. One thing I like is the 13th on string 1 with A and B depressed and 7 at G (b7).
The unison with 6 is nice, too. I use it as a starting point for contrapuntal licks with lines splitting apart.
And it can be used as a variation of licks you might do with the more traditional 6 lower.
Personally I also like raising 7 on a P/P so I don't have so much slack on the B pedal, not that that ever seemed to bother Emmons... |
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