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Edward Efira


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Post  Posted 11 Jul 2020 8:27 am    
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I'm about to do some maintenance on my Zum Hybrid ans was wondering if I needed to lubricate the changer, and if so, do I need to remove it and take it apart or can I just apply the lubricant as it is, mounted in the cabinet. All that knowing that I'm far from being an expert at anything mechanical.
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K Maul


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Post  Posted 11 Jul 2020 12:29 pm    
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Unless it is very old or all gummed up with old oil and dirt, just lubricate with a SMALL few drops of DRY Teflon lube. You can get it at a bike shop. Not the stuff with wax or mineral oil but the totally dry Teflon lube.
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Ian Worley


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Post  Posted 11 Jul 2020 11:23 pm    
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Rick Campbell put together a handy video that explains step-by-step how to properly clean a pedal steel guitar: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_H-I7Jv9Aww
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ajm

 

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Post  Posted 12 Jul 2020 9:20 am    
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In case someone misses it, the Rick video IS A JOKE!!!!

As I was watching it, I kept thinking "Really?????".

By the way, that Emmons looks small.
Is it even a real guitar in the video?
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Ian Worley


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Post  Posted 12 Jul 2020 10:49 am    
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sshhh! (click the link in the description)
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Chris Willingham


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Post  Posted 12 Jul 2020 1:12 pm    
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Dave Magram

 

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Post  Posted 12 Jul 2020 9:21 pm    
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Unless it is very old or all gummed up with old oil and dirt, just lubricate with a SMALL few drops of DRY Teflon lube. You can get it at a bike shop. Not the stuff with wax or mineral oil but the totally dry Teflon lube.


A warning: There are two very different versions of Tri-Flow:

1. “Tri-Flow Superior Lubricant” . (Good for pedal steels.)
This is the most common version, found in most hardware stores. It goes on wet and the liquid solvent evaporates, leaving a DRY but slippery film of Teflon.


From the Triflow website:
“Tri-Flow Superior Lubricant provides twice the lubricating power of most competitive brands. Its light viscosity allows for deep penetration into hard to reach moving parts.”
[url] http://www.triflowlubricants.com/product/superior-lubricant-drip-bottle[/url]

Many Forumites have reported good results with this “regular” version of Tri-Flow, and several steel guitar builders and mechanics recommend it.

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2. “Tri-Flow Superior Dry Lubricant”. (Very, very bad for pedal steels.)

From the Triflow website:
“Tri-Flow Superior Dry Lubricant was specifically designed to lubricate like an oil and stay clean like a wax. Its exclusive formula includes paraffin wax and high grade petroleum oil which penetrates as it quickly sets up and dries, leaving a thin, visible, coating that repels water as it lubricates.”
http://www.triflowlubricants.com/product/superior-dry-lubricant

This version is typically found in bike shops. It goes on wet and the liquid solvent evaporates, leaving a “dry” slippery film of Teflon-- just like the classic version—but this is then covered with a layer of paraffin wax and petroleum oil!

The important difference between the two versions is the added paraffin wax coating—just what you do NOT want in your steel guitar’s precision mechanism.

The wax was probably added to the so-called “dry” version sold in bike shops to protect the Teflon coating on your bike chain and other exposed parts from rain and mud. Since most people do not play their steel guitar in the rain or drag it through the mud, I don’t understand why anyone would knowingly put paraffin into the precision parts of a steel guitar—where it will literally “gum up the works”—like the roller nuts. (I learned this the hard way.)
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I have never heard any reputable steel guitar builder or mechanic recommend the so-called “dry” version (with paraffin) for bicycles for use on a pedal steel.

The regular “Tri-Flow Superior Lubricant” without paraffin should be fine.

-Dave
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Edward Efira


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Post  Posted 13 Jul 2020 8:08 am    
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Thank you all for educating and humoring me, I got the right 3 in 1 and I will use it scarcely. May I ask Rick C. which kind of hose are you using?
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