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Topic: Running On Empty solo-C6 & open E comparison & Tutorials |
Steve Cunningham
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Jack Hanson
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San Luis Valley, USA
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Posted 8 Jun 2020 9:06 am |
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| Nice. Thanks for sharing! |
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Jim Fogarty
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Phila, Pa, USA
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Posted 8 Jun 2020 4:17 pm
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Great stuff as always.......thanks, Steve.
Pretty sure I heard Lindley say he did that solo in open A........so open E cranked up a 4th. That would make it lay @ the 12th fret which would help with the intonation AND might explain that pickup note.
But since more of us don't have a steel to dedicate to tuning that high, learning it on C6 or E is great. |
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John Goux
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California, USA
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Posted 8 Jun 2020 9:52 pm
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Anyone know what guitar he was using on that song?
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Bill Liscomb
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MA
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Andy Volk
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Boston, MA
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Posted 9 Jun 2020 8:56 am
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deleted - posted in wrong thread!
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John Goux
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California, USA
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Posted 9 Jun 2020 8:59 am
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Lots of good shots toward the end of the video.
Maybe someone can identify this lap steel. Looks black on the bottom.
Amp head over his left shoulder looks like a Dumble.
There was a long interview with David in GP magazine around this time. I remember him saying he was done with the phase shifter, as it he did not want to be typecast from this famous performance. I don’t remember which phase shifter he used, but I bet it’s in that article.
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Peter Jacobs
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Northern Virginia
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Stephen Abruzzo
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Philly, PA
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Posted 10 Jun 2020 7:59 am
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Great stuff........thanks for posting this.
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Steve Cunningham
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Atlanta, GA
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Jeff Highland
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New South Wales, Australia
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Posted 10 Jun 2020 1:44 pm
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| Jim Fogarty wrote: |
Great stuff as always.......thanks, Steve.
Pretty sure I heard Lindley say he did that solo in open A........so open E cranked up a 4th. That would make it lay @ the 12th fret which would help with the intonation AND might explain that pickup note.
But since more of us don't have a steel to dedicate to tuning that high, learning it on C6 or E is great. |
Would that "open A" be open G (GBDgbd) taken up 2 steps? A high A string would seem a bit vulnerable.
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Jim Fogarty
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Phila, Pa, USA
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Posted 10 Jun 2020 2:09 pm
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| Jeff Highland wrote: |
Would that "open A" be open G (GBDgbd) taken up 2 steps? A high A string would seem a bit vulnerable. |
Nope.......according to Lindley it's Open E, up a 4th! |
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Steve Cunningham
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Atlanta, GA
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Miles Lang
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Venturaloha
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Posted 20 Jun 2020 9:58 am
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The tune lays out perfectly in B11th.
I asked Byrd directly about the Sand/Nuages connection. He wrote me that he had heard a lot of Django tunes but was not familiar with Nuages and doubted there could be any connection. Nuages also works well in D9th. |
How can you have heard Django but not heard his biggest song? It’s one of 2 Django songs in the RealBook. Oh well
I’ve done a bit of research into the Sand/Nuages connection. They came out fairly contemporaneously, but Sand may be just a little bit older. I’m not sure Django would have been aware of Andy Iona in occupied France, and this may have just been an amazing coincidence. |
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C. Eric Banister
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Scottsburg, Indiana, USA
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Posted 24 Jun 2020 9:16 am
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If you haven't heard the podcast Music Makers and Soul Shakers, you should look into the two part interview with David Lindley from a few years ago. He discusses a lot related to this solo and time period (including saying the strings were pulled so tight they'd last about three days).
(the podcast also has some great interviews with other steelers) |
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Dave Mudgett
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Central Pennsylvania and Gallatin, Tennessee
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Posted 24 Jun 2020 11:47 am
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Sounds good. I love David's playing, always great to see more discussion about his approach.
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Would that "open A" be open G (GBDgbd) taken up 2 steps? A high A string would seem a bit vulnerable.
.. Nope.......according to Lindley it's Open E, up a 4th!
.. .. He must have use a Billy Gibbons set for that tuning  |
Actually, there is absolutely no problem tuning up a 22.5" Rick B6 to Open A (lo-hi A2, E3, A3, C#4, E4, A4) with a pretty normal set of strings, a bit less than 30 lb per string, which I find pretty normal for steel. This is from the stringjoy tension calculator - https://tension.stringjoy.com/
There are some tension variations between different string makers, but this is in the ballpark. And you can bring it down to about 150 lb total, or about 25 lb per string with a lo-hi 46, 30, 22w, 16p, 13, 10 set. Actually, I would find that a bit low-tension. |
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