Sho-Bud Super Pro - 1979 - Help Needed!

Alexander Morgan · From: United Kingdom

Hello!

I've got a Sho-Bud Super Pro from 1979 (DAY SETUP). I'm new to PSG and need some help...

I want to try and get the LKL (lowers the Es) to be closer to my left knee. It seems to have a half way point where I push it so far and it flattens the E but then I push further and it flattens it fully. It's hard to push the lever all the way I end up have my knees in this \ / position.

I have also noticed that the rod for the LKL is rattling on other parts under the steel? How do I stop that rod touching other parts?

Any help would be appreciated!

Alex
Bath, UK.

Craig A Davidson · From: Wisconsin Rapids, Wisconsin USA

Alexander can you post a picture of the underside?

Jamie Kitlarchuk · From: Alberta, Canada

A simple and quick way to bring the LKL closer to your knee is to tighten the rod on the ball-joint assembly a bit if it's the one I'm thinking of (going on memory here as I'm away from my steel).

Ronnie Boettcher · From: Brunswick Ohio, USA

Without seeing the underside, can you move the whole assembly closer to you. Then shorten the rod. Be careful drilling 2 new holes. Don't go too deep. As for the noise, a quick fix is a piece of sponge.Just put it between the parts are rattling. Everyone is built different, and you have to make your steel fit "YOU". Make it comfy for you!
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Alexander Morgan · From: United Kingdom

Hello everyone, thanks for the responses.

Here's a picture of the underside. And the steel.

Thanks for the advice about the foam! I used a piece of tissue paper and it seems to have stopped the clanking sound!

I am struggling to get comfortable under the steel. I am trying to sit with my left leg more at an angle like ' \ ' and my right like more at 90 degrees to my volume pedal. I find that my front of my left ankle hurts as I'm holding it above the pedals too...

Is it natural to feel so uncomfortable behind it at first?

I'm unsure of the distance that I should be away from it too. It feels better to have my feet in front of my knees. But when I do this I feel like I'm so far away from the strings!

I have lowered the ABC pedals to as low as I can get them, which feels like it helps a little with the discomfort.

Kind regards,
Alex

Alexander Morgan · From: United Kingdom

Paul Wade · From: mundelein,ill

Alexander
First there is a set screw on top of the knee lever which a just the angle of the knee. Lossen the the nut
And turn the screw in or out either right or left.thar should get it to your knee. Your pull rods should be in the center hole of the pedal bracket.

Paul

Jerry Overstreet · From: Louisville Ky

Good information from Paul. I made a yellow indication mark pointing to the nut Paul mentioned to show where the knee lever tilt adjustment screws are located.

Alexander Morgan · From: United Kingdom

Thank you for the responses guys!

This has done the trick! Very Happy

Thank you so much!! Feels a lot closer to my knee now!

While inspecting the underside I have noticed the LKR level has a lot more movement it when I wiggle it than the LKL.

What can be done about this?

Here's a video of the issue.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4afFcuVRks&feature=youtu.be

MANY thanks!

Alex

Jerry Overstreet · From: Louisville Ky

Alex, right acting levers such as your LKR use a reversing mechanism due to the guitar's all pull system, that is the changer is always pulling a string to either raise or lower a string. This is possible due to the split finger changer scissors which pulls one part to raise and another to lower.

Due to the reversing mechanism on you LKR, there is inherently a little more slack before the two levers of the mechanism meet. There must always be some slack in an all pull system for proper operation.

Also, parts do wear. Just make sure there are no loose fasteners there in the parts you show in the video. Doesn't appear to be too severe to me from what I can see.

I suggest you take a look at att the information contained in the old Carter site www.steelguitar.com concerning how this operates.

Here's a particular page that illustrates the all pull changer mechanism. http://www.steelguitar.com/maps/changer.html

Welcome to the steel guitar and the forum. Best of luck and continue to ask questions here about things you don't understand.

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