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Topic: Looking for Chicken Pickin' Advice |
Jamie Kitlarchuk
From: Alberta, Canada
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Posted 17 Mar 2020 12:24 pm
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Looking for advice on the best way to approach chicken pickin' runs on pedal steel? Do you use only the thumb and pick like on a six string? Thumb / middle or thumb / index? Any good video examples out there? |
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Dave Meis
From: Olympic Peninsula, Washington, USA
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Jon Voth
From: Virginia, USA
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Posted 17 Mar 2020 8:22 pm
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In my mind it means using the pick blocking technique on every note, in fast succession. Maybe some fast palm blockers out there.
One of the hardest things to do (for me anyways). |
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Marty Broussard
From: Broussard, Louisiana, USA
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Posted 18 Mar 2020 12:05 am
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Just in case you’ve never heard them, listen to Jimmie Crawford and Russ Hicks’ playing. If you like what you hear find instructional material from them.
Hope that helps you. _________________ RETIRED
"Technique is really the elimination of the unnecessary..it is a constant effort to avoid any personal impediment or obstacle to achieve the smooth flow of energy and intent" Yehudi Menuhin |
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Jeff Harbour
From: Western Ohio, USA
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Posted 18 Mar 2020 3:49 am
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I recommend Joe Wright's Pick/Palm Blocking Video:
http://www.pedalsteel.com/ashop/index.php?product=144
Joe vividly demonstrates both techniques. You will get a good look at pick-blocking (Paul Franklin style) and at palm-blocking (classic Lloyd Green style). When used in upbeat songs, the palm-blocking style will give the staccato effect often referred to as "Chicken Pickin'".
I also like the fact that Joe's DVDs are very long, with lot's of information. After playing along closely with the DVD, you should learn a lot of new skills to work with. |
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Donny Hinson
From: Glen Burnie, Md. U.S.A.
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Posted 18 Mar 2020 4:58 am
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Most of the sound is from the timing/blocking technique, but you also have to pick with authority to pull it off correctly.
"Pull 'em out by the roots!" |
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Ron Hogan
From: Nashville, TN, usa
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Posted 18 Mar 2020 5:18 am
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If you can find early recording of Weldon Myrick, he was the King of it, the best. |
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Andy Henriksen
From: Michigan, USA
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Posted 18 Mar 2020 6:40 am
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Dave Meis wrote: |
https://youtu.be/2gEOfwN7uwQ Starts about 3 minutes in... |
I had not seen this before. Thank you so much! |
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Jamie Kitlarchuk
From: Alberta, Canada
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Posted 18 Mar 2020 7:57 am
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Thanks everyone. That video that Dave Meis posted is exactly what I'm talking about (at about 3:00).. the 'ghost' notes that you hear on a six string when you don't quite fret the note all the way.
I started working on my technique with Jeff Newman's right hand alpha focusing on palm blocking, but now mostly do a hybrid. To me though, speed picking and chickin pickin have really different applications, though i can see how the picking motions and fingers are pretty much the same.
I'll go through the examples mentioned and keep plugging away slowly. |
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GaryL
From: Medina, OH USA
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Posted 22 Mar 2020 2:42 am Chicken Pickin'
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Jamie,
I recommend Joe Wright's material on the subject (Secrets of the Wright Hand, etc.) He has very clear, easy to understand lessons, with excellent instructions on blocking, single-string runs, finger/thumb combinations and building accuracy and speed. I've bought a lot of materials, but Joe's lessons are the best that I've ever seen. Good luck! _________________ GFI Ultra D-10 keyless
Quilter Steelaire(s)
Telonics rack system, 12"& 15" TT Speakers, Hilton Volume |
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Len Amaral
From: Rehoboth,MA 02769
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Posted 23 Mar 2020 3:46 pm
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Like Marty mentioned, Jimmy Crawford and Russ Hicks album. “Shake your Booty†a disco flavored tune is a classic example of chicken picking. _________________ I survived the sixties! |
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Steve Mueller
From: Cincinnati, Ohio, USA
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Posted 28 Mar 2020 1:14 pm
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Sarah Jory - wow! _________________ 2016 Williams D12 8 x 8, 2015 Williams D12 8 x 8, 2023 Williams S12 4 x 5, Milkman Amps, 1974 Gibson Byrdland |
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Rich Upright
From: Florida, USA
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Posted 30 Mar 2020 8:10 pm
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AFAIC, the king of chikin' pikin' steel was Buddy Cage. _________________ A couple D-10s,some vintage guitars & amps, & lotsa junk in the gig bag. |
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Jeff Harbour
From: Western Ohio, USA
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Posted 31 Mar 2020 11:57 am
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I don't know for sure in Buddy Cage's case, but he seems to have followed the same path as Jay Dee Maness, who was admittedly directly inspired by Lloyd Green's playing in the late 60's and early 70's (the sound now known as 'chicken pickin'). BC's most impressive upbeat work sure sounds Lloyd-like to me!
Check out Lloyd's playing on the famous Panther Hall concert (Charley Pride), or his work on Lynn Anderson's albums of that era. |
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Ron Hogan
From: Nashville, TN, usa
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Posted 1 Apr 2020 10:03 am
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Here is a version of "Chicken picken". There are several versions out there though.
SAMPLE HERE
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