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Topic: Building my own pacaseat |
Mike Wilkerson
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Posted 25 Mar 2020 10:07 am |
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Hello forumites I’m gonna attempt to build my own pacaseat and I was wondering if I could get some help on dimensions,materials,etc. I have experience in woodwork and have all the tools to get the initial build done. Just don’t know the dimensions on the legs and what material is used. Also would like to know what materials is used to dress the corners and would like to have a back. All my other pac seats were standard height. Thanks in advance. Slim
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Jim Pitman
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Waterbury Ctr. VT 05677 USA
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Posted 25 Mar 2020 12:29 pm
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Here's a seat I built. My commercial one fell apart so I scavenged its' parts. I used half inch thick baltic birch plywood. The corner uprights are milled to accept the plywood sides. There are three compartments inside.
I have a five page set of B size plans in PDF I could e-mail you. PM me if your are interested.
If nothing else the dimensions might be a good starting point. I made the seat a bit smaller than the commercial one that I bought. The seated height is standard.
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Travis Wilson
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Johnson City, TX
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Posted 25 Mar 2020 6:00 pm
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I built mine. Building the box/chair was easy, even the tolex was cake. The legs though were tough, I ended up using pipes and flanges. I might get some locking hinges or maybe make a tight radius pipe bender for proper legs, but it’s working well enough.
Probably I’ll just buy a real one someday. I think that building one was about the same price as buying a used one. |
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Travis Wilson
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Johnson City, TX
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Posted 25 Mar 2020 6:01 pm
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I built mine. Building the box/chair was easy, even the tolex was cake. The legs though were tough, I ended up using pipes and flanges. I might get some locking hinges or maybe make a tight radius pipe bender for proper legs, but it’s working well enough.
Probably I’ll just buy a real one someday. I think that building one was about the same price as buying a used one.  |
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Bobby D. Jones
From:
West Virginia, USA
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Posted 25 Mar 2020 9:30 pm
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For a seat with back 14" deep, 17" wide, 8 1/2" height seems to be a standard size.
Boat Seat hinges work well for the back hinges. You have to mount the bumpers on the hinge which can be a little tricky.
Be sure to put 2 latches on the top. Just 1 latch in the middle is easy to open with end of finger when picking it up, And dump everything in the floor.
1" Aluminum angle is good for the corner guards attach with large chrome head tacks.
1/2" aluminum angle is good to use on the bottom edge of seat to protect cover, Attach with countersunk wood screws.
Piano hinge seems more stable than just a pair of hinges, Drill and countersink extra screws on the end if needed.
If 3/4" aluminum tubing is used for legs, Put 3/4" blocks under 1 set of legs so they will fold neat under the seat flange for carrying.
Just some suggestions. Good Luck if you start the seat project. |
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Jimmie Hudson
From:
North Carolina, USA
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Posted 26 Mar 2020 3:50 pm kit
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| Buy a seat kit from hudsonsteelguitars.com and you will have everything to build the seat. You can get a pair of boat seat hinges to add a backrest. |
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Johnie King
From:
Tennessee, USA
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Posted 26 Mar 2020 4:40 pm
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| Jimmy Hudson has hot legs for sale or a pack a seat kit!! |
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Kevin Fix
From:
Michigan, USA
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Posted 26 Mar 2020 6:16 pm
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| I made one years ago. I made the legs out of 3/4 copper pipe. I sweated them into 3/4 elbows. Used 3/4 inch conduit clamps to hold them to the seat. I used two exhaust system hangers that I used to hold them erect with linch pins. |
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Ron Hogan
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Nashville, TN, usa
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Posted 27 Mar 2020 4:54 am Re: kit
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| Jimmie Hudson wrote: |
| Buy a seat kit from hudsonsteelguitars.com and you will have everything to build the seat. You can get a pair of boat seat hinges to add a backrest. |
SEE KIT HERE |
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Jack Stoner
From:
Kansas City, MO
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Posted 27 Mar 2020 7:25 am
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I built about a dozen seats in late 80's/early 90's. The seats were easy, the legs were the issue. I only found one place in the Kansas City area that could bend aluminum tubing correctly for legs but they wouldn't do a small order. I got some 3/4" conduit and a friend that was the welding supervisor at a plant mitered the joints and welded them to the right size for me. Worked out good.
I used boat seat hinges for the back. The key is to place the back pad in the proper location. Too high or too low is no good.
One of the earlier posts stated use one catch in the middle for securing the top of the seat to the bottom. One isn't enough, always use two. One will hold it but if it breaks you are "SOL" out on a job. With two, its unlikely that both will break at the same time.
I lost track of the people with the seats except for two and both of them are still using seats that I built. One is being used by a Steeler in Alton Missouri and the other is being used by a Steeler locally. |
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Ron Hogan
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Nashville, TN, usa
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Posted 27 Mar 2020 7:47 am
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What if......you attached one of these boat seats to the build? I put one on my ultralight and it has held up great. They are only $35.00.
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Dennis Detweiler
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Solon, Iowa, US
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Posted 27 Mar 2020 8:50 am
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You don't have to make fold-up legs either. Just build a box all the way to the floor. Add dividers or just one divider to split into left and right side. Quick and easy. I built one in the 70's and still using it, but I cut legs into the 4 side pieces before assembling to make the inside a little shallower. I recently added boat seat hinges and rebuilt the top to have a backrest that folds down. If you don't have to mess with the folding legs, it's much easier and simple to make.
When I played a show in Branson & on road for a few years, I cut a door into the side of it, added hinges and attached a couple of effects pedals to the door. Close the door and effects are safely inside and quick to set up and tear down.
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Jimmie Hudson
From:
North Carolina, USA
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Posted 27 Mar 2020 12:15 pm yes
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| Dennis Detweiler wrote: |
You don't have to make fold-up legs either. Just build a box all the way to the floor. Add dividers or just one divider to split into left and right side. Quick and easy. I built one in the 70's and still using it, but I cut legs into the 4 side pieces before assembling to make the inside a little shallower. I recently added boat seat hinges and rebuilt the top to have a backrest that folds down. If you don't have to mess with the folding legs, it's much easier and simple to make.
When I played a show in Branson & on road for a few years, I cut a door into the side of it, added hinges and attached a couple of effects pedals to the door. Close the door and effects are safely inside and quick to set up and tear down. |
I have been planning to build a few seats without legs for fast setup. and the seat would be very cost effective to make, so it would sell for a lot less than most seats today. Many ways to build a seat. Just have to get Steel players to buy into the idea of a simple seat. |
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John McClung
From:
Olympia WA, USA
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Posted 27 Mar 2020 2:32 pm
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There's got to be a better hinge than the customary boat hinges, which I find clunky. Anyone have ideas?
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Mike Wilkerson
From:
Luther Oklahoma
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Posted 28 Mar 2020 1:18 pm
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I appreciate everyone’s input on my build however due to the corona virus and everything being shut down when I get paid I’m gonna order the kit from Jimmy Hudson and let it go at that. However when this settles down and we’re back to business as usual I will build it and if it turns out like I’m hoping I will probably build for distribution. You guys are awesome and have a wealth of information and I so appreciate everyone. Take care and god bless. Slim
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Jason Fredensborg
From:
Zimmerman, Minnesota
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Posted 2 May 2020 1:21 pm
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| Mike Wilkerson wrote: |
| I appreciate everyone’s input on my build however due to the corona virus and everything being shut down when I get paid I’m gonna order the kit from Jimmy Hudson and let it go at that. However when this settles down and we’re back to business as usual I will build it and if it turns out like I’m hoping I will probably build for distribution. You guys are awesome and have a wealth of information and I so appreciate everyone. Take care and god bless. Slim |
Did you wind up buying that kit from Jimmy Hudson then? Just wondering how easy it was to build and how it turned out. |
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