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billy tam R.I.P.

 

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Post  Posted 31 Mar 2006 4:39 pm    
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I have access to one of these prototype rodded pedal steels D-10 8p and 2k. Looks to be about a 9.5 out of ten. If any of you Fenderphiles have any interest I can email some pics next week.

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Billy
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Jim Sliff


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Post  Posted 31 Mar 2006 9:28 pm    
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I'd love to see the pics. Never seen anything other than the catalog stuff, so a "real" one would be a treat.
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basilh


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Post  Posted 1 Apr 2006 12:07 am    
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If you ever want to sell it....call me FIRST...

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HowardR


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Post  Posted 1 Apr 2006 4:24 am    
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I have posted photos several times in the past several years. If you search on this forum, you'll find them....undercarriage & all.

BTW, I thought that the maximum changes on the 210 were 9 total. Mine is 5 & 4.

[This message was edited by HowardR on 01 April 2006 at 04:25 AM.]

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Jim Sliff


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Post  Posted 1 Apr 2006 6:22 am    
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Here's the thread Howard mentioned - all I can say about the pictures is...Yikes! It's so totally foreign to me I have NO clue how it works!

So, of course, that makes me want one even more...hehe.
http://steelguitarforum.com/Forum5/HTML/009156.html
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Fred Shannon


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Post  Posted 1 Apr 2006 7:11 am    
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Two happiest days of my steel guitar life, the day I took one home and the day I sold it. Biggest mess I ever got into. Just my case in point and MHO.

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Michael Lee Allen

 

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Post  Posted 4 Apr 2006 1:27 pm    
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REMOVED

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billy tam R.I.P.

 

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baton rouge, louisiana
Post  Posted 4 Apr 2006 4:58 pm    
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Hope to have pics in a day or two, will send to all who inquired.

thanks
Billy
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Al Marcus


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Cedar Springs,MI USA (deceased)
Post  Posted 4 Apr 2006 5:41 pm    
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Billy-I had one for a weekend tryout from Arizona Music Center in 1972. As Howard says, it had 9 tuning bars so 9 pedals.
That is the one I tried .

Howards with 5 and 4 would be ideal as the crossover worked real good so they all worked both necks separately.

I played a lot of C6 stuff on it and it sounded good and seemed to stay in tune while I had it out.It was $1500. list at the time and very HEAVY.

But a good well built guitar, Gene did a good job. No Cables. It was supposed to replace the cable jobs, but it never happened....al

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Herb Steiner


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Briarcliff TX 78669, pop. 2,064
Post  Posted 4 Apr 2006 7:16 pm    
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Back in 68 or 69, Gene Fields called me and asked if I could bring my Sho~Bud Crossover down to Fullerton so that the Fender patent attorneys could see it. It was to determine if there was any potential conflict between the 210 and the SB design. There wasn't any conflict.

The undercarriage was unlike anything I'd ever seen before. I recall thinking at the time it looked more like the workings of a typewriter or a cash register. Anyway, I asked Gene how he came up with such an idea and his verbatim answer was "a lot of sleepless nights."

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CrowBear Schmitt


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Ariege, - PairO'knees, - France
Post  Posted 5 Apr 2006 7:31 am    
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http://steelguitarforum.com/Forum5/HTML/009156.html
http://steelguitarforum.com/Forum5/HTML/003861.html

[IMG]www.well.com/user/wellvis/steels/Fender/FenderPS210.JPG[/IMG]

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Tony Glassman


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The Great Northwest
Post  Posted 5 Apr 2006 10:43 am    
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I was lucky enough to check out one of these axes @ Blackie Taylor's shop during one of the NAMM conventions in LA [mid 1970's].

I always thought the mechanism was a stroke of genius. Each plate had 10 holes [one per string].

As I recall, you could make instantaneous pedal changes @ the endplate by simply removing a thumbscrew from one hole and placing it in another.

I can't remember how:

1] one determined if the change was raise vs.lower

2]leverage balance between strings on the same pedal was obtained........ or

3]pedal/knee throws were adjusted.
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Jack Stoner


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Kansas City, MO
Post  Posted 5 Apr 2006 11:35 am    
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I got to try one out in Nashville at a NAMM or NAMM type show in early 72. Johnny Cox got me into the show and told me I had to check out the Fender. This one had the seat attached to it and I didn't think much of the attached seat.

I don't remember much about how the guitar played but it wasn't my PP Emmons. It sounded about like the Fender 2000 I had before the Emmons.
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basilh


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Post  Posted 5 Apr 2006 12:01 pm    
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basilh


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Post  Posted 5 Apr 2006 12:12 pm    
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Did anyone ever notice that THIS one was a single 12 String

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HowardR


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Post  Posted 5 Apr 2006 3:35 pm    
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Here are a couple of photos of Gene's 210, or something he concocted








and one more to dazzle Basil...







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billy tam R.I.P.

 

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baton rouge, louisiana
Post  Posted 5 Apr 2006 5:31 pm    
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Wow, these photos are really amazing. The owner of this PS210 and I are having a hard time getting our schedules to coincide but it will happen soon and I will have some pics.

thanks to all
Billy
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Skip Edwards

 

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LA,CA
Post  Posted 5 Apr 2006 5:55 pm    
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In case anyone han't seen it yet, here's page 2 of the brochure....


Page 1 was the first pic that Basil posted above.

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Al Marcus


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Cedar Springs,MI USA (deceased)
Post  Posted 5 Apr 2006 7:14 pm    
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Tony-20 levers on the changer, the raise and lower levers were side by side, so there was a tapped hole in each. Put the screw in one lever and it lowered that string, put it in the lever next to it and it raised the string. quite similiar as the old Multi-kord changer only this one pulled from the side instead of the top and no cables and pedals in the front instead of side. This was way ahead of anything at the time.
Fender could have made it standard E9 on one neck and c6 on the bottom neck as is very commom today. And let the player change it any way he wanted. That way they could have put it in production and still made money on it. Like the old model T any color as long as it is black. I think Gene's statement that the players wanted to many custom changes for it to be profitable is correct, BUT they should have made it amyway, maby worked on reducing the weight. Oh well, it's all history now.

Today we have a lot of beautiful and well machined guitars to pick from now. ...al

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