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Topic: Tom Brumly's tuning on Buckaroo? |
Wes Hamshaw
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Pacific City, Oregon * R.I.P.
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Posted 1 Apr 2006 10:46 am |
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Anyone out there guess what tuning Tom Brumly used on his recording of Buckaroo? E9th just does't seem to fit the
pattern. C6th seems out of the question. Thanks....Wes |
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Bob Tuttle
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Republic, MO 65738
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Posted 1 Apr 2006 11:10 am
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| E9th..... |
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Ricky Davis
From:
Bertram, Texas USA
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Posted 1 Apr 2006 11:36 am
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Buckaroo/steel break/key of C#/E9th pedal steel
Note: Second string "L" is half tone.
(C#)
1.______|__________________________________|
2.______|_______________4L___4L____________|
3.______|__________________________________|
4.______|__________________________________|
5.______|____4~a_4~a_4a___4a____4a~4_______|
6._____4|_4b_________________________4b~4__|
7.___4__|_________________________________4|
8.~4____|__________________________________|
(F#)
2.______________9L___9L____________|
3._________________________________|
4._________________________________|
5.____9_9~9a_9a___9a____9a~9_______|
6._9b________________________9b~9__|
7.________________________________9|
(C#)
2._____________________4L____4L____________|
3._________________________________________|
4._________________________________________|
5._4~4a_4a___4~4a_4a______4a____4a~4_______|
6.________4b________4b_______________4b~4__|
7.________________________________________4|
(G#)
2._______________4L__4L____4L________|
3.___________________________________|
4.___________________________________|
5.________4_4~4a________4a____4a~4___|
6._4_4~4b__________________________4b|
7.___________________________________|
(C#)
2.________________4L____4L____________|
3.____________________________________|
4.____________________________________|
5.______4_4~4a_4a____4a____4a~4_______|
6._4~4b_________________________4b~4__|
7.___________________________________4|
(F#)
2.______________9L___9L____________|
3._________________________________|
4._________________________________|
5.____9_9~9a_9a___9a____9a~9_______|
6._9b________________________9b~9__|
7.________________________________9|
(C#) (G#) C# F# G# C# F# C#
2._________5______________________|_______|________
3.________________________________|_______|________
4.________________________________|_______|________
5._4~4a_5a___5a~4a~4__4____5a~4a~4|_______|________
6.______________________4b________|_4b_2_4|_4b_2_4b
7.________________________________|_______|________
8.________________________________|_4__2_4|_4__2_4_
Ricky |
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Bob Carlucci
From:
Candor, New York, USA
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Posted 1 Apr 2006 12:15 pm
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| Wes.. its certainly E9.. all on a/b pedals and the half tone lower on string 2...Ricky's tab should help you out...bob |
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Charles Curtis
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Posted 1 Apr 2006 12:19 pm
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| Thanks Ricky. Back in the 60s, I was playing with a group, we had a real sharp guitarist that nailed this tune and when it came my turn I laid the biggest bomb since Hiroshima...oh well. |
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Bill Miller
From:
Gaspe, Quebec, Canada
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Posted 1 Apr 2006 2:26 pm
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| I've been playing Buckaroo on six string for as long as I can remember but just recently worked it into our show on steel. ...or at least I do the steel ride on it. For me the hardest part is to try and nail that nice snappy feel with the blocking. I use the tip of my middle finger on my bar hand to block the second string. I'm not very sure footed with yet but we're gonna open with it again tonight anyways. Buckaroo is still a crowd pleaser. |
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Wes Hamshaw
From:
Pacific City, Oregon * R.I.P.
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Posted 1 Apr 2006 3:34 pm
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E9th it is!!! Had an interesting e-mail from a forum member regarding the recording of Buckaroo. He suggested that the entire band retuned one half tone down to reduce the chances for string breakage on Tom's
steel - a Fender 1000, at the time. Thanks for all your input regarding this thread, especially to you Rick for all your efforts in tabbing it out........Wes |
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John Lockney
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New Market, Maryland, USA
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Posted 1 Apr 2006 5:14 pm
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I thought 8-string Fender guitars were missing the first two "chromatic" strings F#, D#. And, since this song includes the 2nd string lower, I thougt he must have been using the 10-string ZB.
What year did he switch from the Fender to ZB ?
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Bengt Erlandsen posted tab for an E9 way to play the tele parts on E9 a while ago. This thread also has some discussion about tuning down 1/2 step:
http://steelguitarforum.com/Forum8/HTML/000968.html
[This message was edited by John Lockney on 01 April 2006 at 05:45 PM.] |
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Dave Van Allen
From:
Souderton, PA , US , Earth
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Posted 1 Apr 2006 10:21 pm
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| the hardest part is to try and nail that nice snappy feel with the blocking. |
in heavy Cockney accent:
"well, that's the trick now, i'n it"
It's definitely E9. Tom got a ZB 11/10 in Early '66 ( the Carnegie Hall Black one) I'm pretty sure, but may have had an earlier ZB.I'd need to consult my files for the recording date on Buckaroo, but ZB or not, it's E9 chromatic with a .5 lower on the 2nd as in RD's tab.
I've heard they tuned a half step down 'cause they liked the tonality
I've also heard they tuned a half step down 'cause they didn't know how the strobotuner worked.
APRIL FOOLS!
Together again was originally recorded on a Fender...[This message was edited by Dave Van Allen on 01 April 2006 at 10:25 PM.] |
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Donny Hinson
From:
Glen Burnie, Md. U.S.A.
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Posted 2 Apr 2006 4:06 am
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| I thought 8-string Fender guitars were missing the first two "chromatic" strings F#, D#. |
John, many players kept the first 2 strings chromatic, and tuned to a "D9th" tuning with the old 8-string guitars. By the early '60s, the chromatic tuning was all the rage, and everyone had to have it! Hardly anyone used Fender's suggested tunings, they were considered obsolete by most players when they were printed. |
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John Lockney
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New Market, Maryland, USA
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Posted 2 Apr 2006 5:16 am
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Thanks for the info on Fenders.
According to the liner-notes of the Best of Vo. 2 "Buckaroo" was recorded May 5, 1965. |
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Tracy Sheehan
From:
Fort Worth, Texas, USA
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Posted 3 Apr 2006 12:27 am
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Shortly after Buckareoo came out i learned it on my fender 1000,but learned the guitar part first.I started tuning D9th about 1960.
That open D tuning gave me the open strings to do guitar parts and rock songs using open strings..Coulden't tell i was playing it on a steel until i played the steel ride.
I worked many years with out a guitar player and learned guitar parts also.I am sure many of you old timers also remember when many steel players could sound exactly like a lead guitar,but many over did it.
Later guitar players started trying to sound like steel.Who ever said it has been one heck of a ride was right on.
And of course this was before bass players and drummers started playing the lead and filling in if you paused for a neat phrasing.LOL.Ain't i an old grouch? Tracy
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Jason Schofield
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Posted 3 Apr 2006 9:36 pm
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I listened to Buckaroo slowed down (but still on pitch) on my computer and compared it with that tab and found a bunch of mistakes. Only problem is I would know how to repost a modified version of that tab for ya'll. Any suggestions
I have some cds for sale here and on my web site if interested. http://steelguitarforum.com/Forum18/HTML/000720.html |
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Gary Spaeth
From:
Wisconsin, USA
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Posted 4 Apr 2006 5:37 am
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| i thought tom got the zb in '64 and used on the album gonna have love/before you go. it sure doesn't sound like a fender and he must have just put the chromatics on because he really uses them a lot. |
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Wes Hamshaw
From:
Pacific City, Oregon * R.I.P.
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Posted 4 Apr 2006 8:05 am
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The reason that it doesn't sound like a Fender 1000 on Tom's early recording is probably because it wasn't. A forum member, and reliable source, explained that Tom
was waiting for delivery of his first ZB and was using Buck's l000 steel untill it arrived. Gary, you are no doubt
right - Bucaroo was recorded on Tom's early ZB. |
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