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Topic: Anyone Install “Flags†or “Paddles†on a Stage One? |
Jim Fogarty
From: Phila, Pa, USA
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Posted 1 Feb 2020 11:14 pm
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I love my Stage One, but one of my few complaints is that the levers aren’t really adjustable.
I’m also quite a.......ummm, LARGE......fellow.
So with that combo, no matter how I position myself or raise/lower my seat, LKL can be a bit of a bugger to activate consistently and comfortably. Having a paddle (or flag...or whatever you call it) on that lever would help a lot.
Has anyone tried doing that on a Stage One, yet? Was there something you could buy, or did you make it yourself?
Any help or suggestions much appreciated. Thanks! |
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Gene Tani
From: Pac NW
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Posted 1 Feb 2020 11:43 pm
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i have the materials for flat paddles: stainless 304 sheet, 26 gauge or so and some u bolts, but never got around to it. Others have made 3-d or pivoting paddles. If you don't want to deal with buying/cutting sheet metal I'll make some and send them out.
https://steelguitarforum.com/Forum5/HTML/007980.html
https://bb.steelguitarforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=259838
Do you want the lever longer, wider, closer to you, closer to/further from LKR, or what? And make sure you can put pedal bar on top and close the case without bending a lever. _________________ - keyless Sonny Jenkins laps stay in tune forever!; Carter PSG
- The secret sauce: polyester sweatpants to buff your picks, cheapo Presonus channel strip for preamp/EQ/compress/limiter, Diet Mountain Dew |
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Dick Sexton
From: Greenville, Ohio
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Posted 2 Feb 2020 10:21 am Flags...
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I've done many, metal from Lowes, JBWeld, Velcro. Never had one fall off.
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Steve Spitz
From: New Orleans, LA, USA
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Posted 2 Feb 2020 2:08 pm
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Dick,
That’s exactly what I need for my Fulawka. Yours look really sharp. I wish I was that handy. I’d love to find a couple or three like that.
I may have to give it a try. GFI made some similar to add on theirs. Gene Fields came up and put one in my hand at the Dallas show. He built me a D10 previously, and just gave it too me. What a great guy !
It was like yours, with a channel for the lever, but with a set screw instead of Velcro.
Yours look perfect.
Thanks for sharing. |
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Jim Fogarty
From: Phila, Pa, USA
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Posted 2 Feb 2020 2:14 pm
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Yup.....very nice, Dick. Wish I was handy!! |
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Jim Fogarty
From: Phila, Pa, USA
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Posted 2 Feb 2020 2:16 pm
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Gene Tani wrote: |
i have the materials for flat paddles: stainless 304 sheet, 26 gauge or so and some u bolts, but never got around to it. Others have made 3-d or pivoting paddles. If you don't want to deal with buying/cutting sheet metal I'll make some and send them out.
Do you want the lever longer, wider, closer to you, closer to/further from LKR, or what? And make sure you can put pedal bar on top and close the case without bending a lever. |
That's really nice, Gene! I'll private message you. Need to measure first to see exactly what I need.
Thanks! |
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Kevin Fix
From: Michigan, USA
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Posted 2 Feb 2020 7:42 pm
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I made them for my Super Pro. I had to put them on all my knee levers. I made them out of flat aluminum stock. I cut them out of a old road sign. I polished them also. They look like factory equipment. Work well for me. |
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Gene Tani
From: Pac NW
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Posted 8 Feb 2020 6:26 am
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24 gauge (.024") 304 steel is a little flimsy and 10 pound velcro is flimsier still but on wider levers (this is only 3/4") should be ok. Unfortunately, stage 1 is going to need a bracket like Dick's.
_________________ - keyless Sonny Jenkins laps stay in tune forever!; Carter PSG
- The secret sauce: polyester sweatpants to buff your picks, cheapo Presonus channel strip for preamp/EQ/compress/limiter, Diet Mountain Dew |
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Dick Sexton
From: Greenville, Ohio
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Posted 8 Feb 2020 7:10 am Just a point...
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I just wanted to say that, the flags I have posted above, were all made with simplest of hand tools. Tools most people use to have around their houses. Hack saws, files, vice grips(or even clothes pins), a good epoxy adhesive and a minimal place to work.
Now, even though I have worked for Lockheed-Martin, this is not rocket science. If you can learn to play an instrument as complicated as a pedal steel guitar(and I may be the worst player on the planet), you are well capable of making these yourselves.
I do take these projects on, they are usually not easy because they take a lot of time figuring clearances and such. Much easier if you have the steel sitting in front of you. And because they are done long distance, mistakes are made and feeling hurt. And that kills me!
I prefer you do them yourselves, but you are free to contact me, so we can discuss it. |
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Erv Niehaus
From: Litchfield, MN, USA
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Posted 8 Feb 2020 8:26 am
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I have added flags to quite a few knee levers.
But I made them out of aluminum, drilled and tapped the knee levers to match the holes I drilled in the flags and they look like they came on the guitars from new.
Erv |
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Dustin Kleingartner
From: Saint Paul MN, USA
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Posted 10 Feb 2020 8:14 am
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I feel your pain. I made a couple flags for the outside levers on my stage one. I just used some kind of aluminum angle piece from a hardware store and covered it in leather. The bummer is that you have to take them off to put it in the case because they won't fold into the body of the guitar. I always put my LKL flag on for shows, it's a must have for me!
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John McClung
From: Olympia WA, USA
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Posted 10 Feb 2020 9:33 am
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Gene, your next time in for a lesson on Feb. 18, I want to talk to you about extenders for my Zumsteel levers! I need some, but need help fabricating. _________________ E9 INSTRUCTION
▪️ If you want to have an ongoing discussion, please email me, don't use the Forum messaging which I detest! steelguitarlessons@earthlink.net |
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