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Ba-Khai Dao

 

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Post  Posted 1 Feb 2020 10:50 am    
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My very post here. Thanks for this forum.

This lap steel was bought from Elderly Instruments many years ago as an all original, late 30's guitar. Is it?

The bridge is falling apart, but I've ordered a replacement from GeorgeBoards, in PLA compound. The tuners are very low, there's no much height around the shaft to roll each string.

I must say I'm pretty lost about Rickenbacker metal models and history.

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John Dahms

 

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Post  Posted 1 Feb 2020 1:01 pm    
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Most likely late 40s Model 59.
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Lee Holliday


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Post  Posted 1 Feb 2020 1:48 pm    
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If you measure the width of the horseshoe from Nut to tail saddle it will help with the date, one and a half inches up to 1945, inch and a quarter post 1945.

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Lee
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Noah Miller


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Post  Posted 1 Feb 2020 4:30 pm    
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It has the older, pre-War mounting style which indicates the 1.5" magnet - however, those were used for a while on some models after 1945. This grey burst finish was used on the NS model in the late '40s and early '50s.
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Ba-Khai Dao

 

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Post  Posted 1 Feb 2020 5:16 pm    
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Noah Miller wrote:
It has the older, pre-War mounting style which indicates the 1.5" magnet - however, those were used for a while on some models after 1945. This grey burst finish was used on the NS model in the late '40s and early '50s.


So after the war once Rickenbacker decided to use the 1.25" magnets on bakelite models, they used their existing stock of 1.5" magnets on cheaper models like the NS, before using the 1.25" magnets once they emptied their old stock?
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Noah Miller


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Post  Posted 1 Feb 2020 6:29 pm    
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Ba-Khai Dao wrote:
Noah Miller wrote:
It has the older, pre-War mounting style which indicates the 1.5" magnet - however, those were used for a while on some models after 1945. This grey burst finish was used on the NS model in the late '40s and early '50s.


So after the war once Rickenbacker decided to use the 1.25" magnets on bakelite models, they used their existing stock of 1.5" magnets on cheaper models like the NS, before using the 1.25" magnets once they emptied their old stock?


That seems to be the case. The Model B and double-neck steels were given the newer pickup with the attachment ring by 1948. The NS was catalogued at least into 1951, and I have never seen one with the newer pickup. I wouldn't be surprised if Rickenbacker kept that model in production just so they could use up the old pickups. By 1953 it appears that the NS was gone, and everything in the catalog had the new pickup.
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Glenn Wilde

 

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Post  Posted 2 Feb 2020 1:09 am    
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If you feel like pulling the pickup, that guitar will be stuffed with newspaper from its time of birth ( mine was).
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John Dahms

 

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Perkasie, Pennsylvania, USA
Post  Posted 2 Feb 2020 6:48 am    
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I could be wrong but I have always considered it to be a model 59 if it had a 1-1/2" pickup and an Exxx serial number stamped into the end of the headstock, and a model NS (stands for "new style"?) if it had the 1-1/4" pickup with thumbscrews and no serial number.
That aside, either can be a very good steel.
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Noah Miller


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Post  Posted 2 Feb 2020 6:54 am    
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The NS replaced the 59 sometime in the mid '40s. The only difference I'm aware of is the finish (the early 59s had no tone knob, but the later ones did). They definitely had the same pickup.
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Ba-Khai Dao

 

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Post  Posted 2 Feb 2020 2:29 pm    
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I know that NS stands for New Style, but why was the 59 called 59 ?
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Noah Miller


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Post  Posted 2 Feb 2020 4:05 pm    
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Ba-Khai Dao wrote:
I know that NS stands for New Style, but why was the 59 called 59 ?


Note the price:

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Ben Elder

 

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Post  Posted 2 Feb 2020 6:56 pm    
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This model was often stuffed with newspapers, which is a dating clue. In mine, the first couple of wads of paper were blank newsprint, but higher up the neck were pages dated November 30, 1945, if memory serves.
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Ba-Khai Dao

 

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Post  Posted 2 Feb 2020 7:17 pm    
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Noah Miller wrote:


Nice, thanks. What year was the Model 59 first released?
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