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Topic: Duesenberg alternative? |
Douglas Wolfe
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Winthrop, Washington, USA
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Posted 31 Jan 2020 11:03 am |
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Hi All,
New to the forum and I'm interested in finding an alternative to the Duesenberg Alamo, particularly the multi-bender. Nothing wrong with the Duesenberg but it is a bit spendy and I'd prefer to support US based builders if possible. I've reached out to Todd Clinesmith (who's pondering if he can help) and am wondering if there are other builders who would be interested. Any and all suggestions welcome.
Thanks,
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Bill McCloskey
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Posted 31 Jan 2020 11:31 am
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Jouni Karvonen
From:
Helsinki, Finland
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Tom Campbell
From:
Houston, Texas, USA
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Posted 31 Jan 2020 4:58 pm
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This is the one I had Melbert build for me about a year or so ago.
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Nic Neufeld
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Kansas City, Missouri
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Posted 31 Jan 2020 5:08 pm
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Clinesmith instruments aren't necessarily where I'd go as a budget option (though I am a devoted fan and my frypan is my favorite instrument for about a year now). Todd is probably pretty busy with his existing designs and a custom one one would deservedly command an expense that I would think might rival the Duesenberg. Your best option is probably a retrofit of the Dues bridge hardware onto a reasonably priced lapsteel. The Melbert above was probably fairly reasonable I'd guess...the bridge/bender alone probably gave the rest of the guitar a run for its money on being the most expensive! Same with the Gretsch, but in that case you'll be the one doing the retrofitting. Might want to looks at a roller nut too (looks like they have that on the Melbert?).
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Douglas Wolfe
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Winthrop, Washington, USA
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Posted 31 Jan 2020 10:58 pm
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| Thanks for the responses everyone. I realize I should have been more explicit in my original post. While the Faulk guitars are pretty cool they're not really my style and I like wood. I'm not opposed to the price of the Duesy per se but the value it represents. A good part of the cost of that guitar is tied up in dealer markups, shipping, import duty, etc. To me a Clinesmith guitar would represent a much better value plus I'd be supporting an independent builder in my own back yard. I do have a couple of old Valco's that I could possibly install the multi-bender on or maybe I just need to build one from scratch. |
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George Piburn
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The Land of Enchantment New Mexico
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Posted 1 Feb 2020 7:01 am DIY Build
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Hello from George Boards
If you decide to make your own (Recommended) we sell body blanks ready to build out. All of which can be set up to have room to add palm goodies.
We do not sell the mechanicals for these type actions, but now of daze there are American Makers of such things.
Trying to fit a so called vintage with this stuff normally results in some level of abortion anyway.
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Glenn Wilde
From:
California, USA
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Adam Tracksler
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Maine, USA
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Jeff Highland
From:
New South Wales, Australia
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Posted 2 Feb 2020 12:12 pm
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I had not Bought a guitar for about 15 years, but been building my own.
I bought the Duesenberg because of the specialised hardware (Multibender bridge, roller nut, integrated Capo) which I could not reproduce in my workshop.
I'm glad I bought it, rather than retrofitting the bridge to something else. Everything just works well together, nice 25.5" scale length, good smooth tuners, good variety of usable tones from the twin pickups etc
Worth it IMHO |
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Douglas Wolfe
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Winthrop, Washington, USA
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Posted 13 Feb 2020 9:35 pm
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| Thanks again for all the replies. I went ahead and bought the Duesenberg Alamo and I gotta say Jeff, you're absolutely right. Fit & finish is top notch and the hardware is excellent. |
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Bill Hatcher
From:
Atlanta Ga. USA
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Posted 14 Feb 2020 6:39 am
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This is the one I had Melbert build for me about a year or so ago.
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tom. are those hipshot benders? and the roller nut? tell us what all that does. thx! |
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Tom Campbell
From:
Houston, Texas, USA
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Posted 14 Feb 2020 6:57 am
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Bill,
Those are not Hipshot benders.
The bridge and levers are Duesenberg...it's a kit...the same bridge unit Duesenberg uses on their Alamo guitar. I ordered it from Duesenberg in Germany.
The nut is a Hipshot roller nut.
Melbert adapted their guitar to accommodate the parts. |
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Bill Hatcher
From:
Atlanta Ga. USA
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Posted 14 Feb 2020 8:26 am
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Andy Volk
From:
Boston, MA
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Tom Campbell
From:
Houston, Texas, USA
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Posted 14 Feb 2020 12:01 pm
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Bill
The Duesenberg multi-bender allows you to raise or LOWER a string. Most of the other benders only allow you to raise a string.
Don't know if this matters, but if you want to lower a string be sure the bender you select has the capacity to do so. |
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Jack Hanson
From:
San Luis Valley, USA
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Posted 15 Feb 2020 11:53 am
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Duesenberg alternative? Have you considered a Cord?
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Chris Akeley
From:
Massachusetts, USA
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Posted 17 Feb 2020 10:36 am
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| Maybe Jason Dumont at Lap King? He does excellent work. |
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Mark Eaton
From:
Sonoma County in The Great State Of Northern California
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Posted 17 Feb 2020 2:56 pm
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Chris - he already bought a Duesenberg - from the post about seven above yours:
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Thanks again for all the replies. I went ahead and bought the Duesenberg Alamo and I gotta say Jeff, you're absolutely right. Fit & finish is top notch and the hardware is excellent.
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Ned Pearson
From:
North Carolina, USA
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Posted 10 Oct 2020 5:02 am I bought a FairyTale
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I realize I'm late to the party but just ran across this thread.
After a lot of thought and considering modding one of my lapsteels with a multibender I bought a Duesy FairyTale back in February. It was expensive but the craftsmanship is superb and the built in capo is almost as amazing as the benders themselves.
The pickup combo is p3 neck and humbucker bridge. I love it and have gotten fairly comfortable with the benders.
Most of the time I'm tuned to a hybrid tuning of gbdf#ad or dadf#ad. I stole the hybrid tuning from Luke Cyrus Goetze who is an absolute master at this tuning and the multibenders. |
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Paul McEvoy
From:
Baltimore, USA
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Posted 10 Oct 2020 6:31 am
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| I don't get the point of the capo on an open tuned guitar. Can someone explain it? |
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Brooks Montgomery
From:
Idaho, USA
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Posted 10 Oct 2020 8:36 am
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you can play the open strings and hammer-ons and pull-offs in different keys as you capo up the neck.
Go watch Jerry Douglas play "On a Monday".
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zh70uGvOH4Y
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Larry Carlson
From:
My Computer
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Posted 10 Oct 2020 2:58 pm
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Chris Fouke of Industrial guitars can help you out at a reasonable price.
He just delivered a baritone lap steel with benders to me and it is absolutely amazing.
He has several basic models to choose from and he can modify them to your liking as needed.
Also a very nice man to work with.
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Tom Keller
From:
Greeneville, TN, USA
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Posted 11 Oct 2020 11:50 am
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| Bigsby palm pedals are an option if you can one. |
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Stuart Docherty
From:
Queensland, Australia
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Posted 22 Oct 2020 3:37 pm Diy
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I too am late to the party on this one...
I am not in USA, consequently the pickings here are slim and if available, expensive.
The D'berg is undoubtedly a lovely piece of kit, but it isn't going to happen down here...
I think the GeorgeBoards idea has merit. As mentioned already, you can buy the palm levers only and they are a well made bit of gear.
If it's of any use to anyone, I have a couple of pics of my floor joist guitar attached. Looking at the headstock end of things, you can get strat saddles with rollers in them from Ebay. Here you will see I have these standing up and locked off with individual screws into the fingerboard. Underneath I have routed a channel to contain threaded inserts (Ebay) and height adjustment screws, so I can get my strings flat.
Or you can purchase a generic roller bridge to serve the purpose of a nut (as you may note I had previously installed).
I don't have a workshop, just a bench in the carport and only a modest selection of hand and power tools. You can get something like this over the line if you want to, it will never be a D'Berg, but it works..
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