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Topic: Delay suggestions |
Detlef Webert
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Europe - DE
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Posted 25 Jan 2020 12:43 pm |
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Hi all - out there!
I'm still playing steel without a delay, just reverb and like to get your inputs on what brand is worth to keep an eye on before buying one. I've once tried a Boss DD7 but it sounded like tin and really not that great-maybe I used a wrong setup.
What brand are you using out there and what are your recommented settings (delay time, repetitions,...).
Thanks,
Detlef |
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Dave Diehl
From:
Mechanicsville, MD, USA
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Posted 25 Jan 2020 2:41 pm
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| I prefer Effects Units as in the Lexicons but as for delay times, etc., would recommend you look under Electronics Section here on the forum and open the "Newman Profex II listing moved to SG Forum" folder at the top to see what some of the finest players ever used. A very good place to start. |
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Adam Tracksler
From:
Maine, USA
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Posted 25 Jan 2020 2:48 pm
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| I love delay. I have a source audio nemesis delay right now that is great. I really like having a tap tempo. |
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Daniel Morris
From:
Westlake, Ohio, USA
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Posted 25 Jan 2020 3:29 pm
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Empress Effects EchoSystem is fantastic.
You will not run out of options, and Empress continues to add algorithms.
https://empresseffects.com/products/echosystem
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Kevin Fix
From:
Michigan, USA
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Posted 25 Jan 2020 4:25 pm
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| If I use Delay I use my Hilton Delay unit. I set it for 1 repeat. 90 % of the time I use no effects other than reverb. I play outdoor shows mostly. If I have one of those super humid days the delay helps on the tone somewhat. |
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Dan Kelly
From:
Boston, MA
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Posted 25 Jan 2020 5:51 pm
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I second the Empress Echo System unit. It has a wide variety of PSG friendly presets and a virtually unlimited range of reverb /delay sounds. The "ducking" delay is particlarily useful when a delay AND a clean sound is desired. I have had mine for more than a year and still find sounds to save.
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Blake Surrell
From:
Maysville Oklahoma, USA
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Posted 25 Jan 2020 6:47 pm
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Hi, I have been going through several delay pedals in the last few days, being unhappy with trying to find a subtle but nice sounding delay. I have a Boss DD3 which a lot of people like, a Maxon AD10 analog delay and a Zoom MS50g multi fx pedal.
The Maxon has some weird artifacts I cannot seem to dial out so I have given up on it. The Boss DD3 is pretty good, changes my tone slightly brighter but can be compensated at the amp. My favorite is actually the Zoom MS50g. It is definitely the most bang for the buck pedal I have ever owned.
It has about 15 different delays, tons of reverbs and chorus etc. I actually like the Memory Man analog delay in this pedal and is what I am using. I know its a digital pedal emulating an analog delay but its warm, and sounds great to me with no weird artifacts. I use it as a slapback, repeats all the way down so just one repeat, delay time around 220ms, about 40% mix.
Another plus to me it uses AA batteries instead of 9v....
Hope this helps.... |
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Barry Coker
From:
Bagley Alabama, USA
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Posted 25 Jan 2020 7:46 pm Delay pedals
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I have a few Delay pedals DD-3, Hilton and Neunaber are my main three but if your looking to try something that won't break the budget and sounds GREAT.
This little Donner pedal gives a lot of sound from a small package. Has to have a 9v wall wart not big enough for internal battery. Less than $30.00 on ebay and cheaper than that if you find a used one.
Good Luck
Barry
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Blake Surrell
From:
Maysville Oklahoma, USA
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Posted 25 Jan 2020 8:06 pm
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| I agree with Barry as well. I have one of those Donner Delays on my 6 string mini board and its excellent for the money. For my PSG I just wanted one that ran off batteries to cut down on clutter.... |
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Detlef Webert
From:
Europe - DE
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Posted 26 Jan 2020 10:20 am
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Thank you guys,
quite a few inputs from you. That's already a good starting point for me. |
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Erv Niehaus
From:
Litchfield, MN, USA
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Posted 27 Jan 2020 9:47 am
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I am presently using either a Boss DD-2 or a Boss DD-3.
They sure suit my fancy. 
Erv |
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Mark Perrodin
From:
Tucson Arizona, USA
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Posted 27 Jan 2020 10:27 am
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echoplex ep103 by jim dunlop or
dispatch master by earthquaker devices.
i have both in my chain and have a lot
of fun with them. |
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Brandon Mills
From:
Victoria, TX. USA
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Posted 28 Jan 2020 7:39 pm
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| Boss DD 8, their newest model. Many good sounding options. If I hadn’t liked this so much I would have gone with the Echoplex pedal. |
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Thomas Stone
From:
San Francisco
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Posted 28 Jan 2020 9:16 pm
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| I use an old Maxon AD-80 pedal, set for what I would call a Chet Atkins-style delay: one quick repeat at fairly low volume. For what I ask of it, I think almost any delay would work. |
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George Seymour
From:
Notown, Vermont, USA
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Posted 29 Jan 2020 6:02 am
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Budget and what it sounds like to you...
Strymon El Capitan, Strymon Brigadier, Neunaber Echelon Delay which is mono. The Strymon are "stereo", dual output. I use these and like the sound.
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Jack Hanson
From:
San Luis Valley, USA
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Posted 29 Jan 2020 6:34 am
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| I favor the blue Hilton Legend Pro Delay, but there's lotsa bang for the buck with the green JOYO JF-33. |
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Curt Trisko
From:
St. Paul, Minnesota, USA
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Posted 29 Jan 2020 7:35 am Re: Delay suggestions
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| Detlef Webert wrote: |
Hi all - out there!
I'm still playing steel without a delay, just reverb and like to get your inputs on what brand is worth to keep an eye on before buying one. I've once tried a Boss DD7 but it sounded like tin and really not that great-maybe I used a wrong setup.
What brand are you using out there and what are your recommented settings (delay time, repetitions,...).
Thanks,
Detlef |
If you're new to the world of effects, then I recommend getting a multi-effects unit to familiarize yourself with how all the different effect variables (and amp simulations) interact and can be tweaked. Tinkering with that will get you in the neighborhood of the sounds you're looking for - and then you'll have a head start on buying gear to really zero in on your tone.
When I started out on steel guitar I bought a used Vox ToneLab LE multi-effects unit. My impression is that it was made for electric guitar and most of the presets are downright goofy on steel guitar. The number of effects, the variations within them, and the control you have over them with that unit is overwhelming, but once you start to learn how to use it, you quickly develop your own sensibilities for which effect settings create a well-rounded sound and which don't.
I've come to prefer the delay settings I've found on it and use them all time. There are several presets to choose from and then you can make minute adjustments within them. That unit has made me able to have pinpoint accuracy for additional effects that I search for. |
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Erv Niehaus
From:
Litchfield, MN, USA
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Posted 29 Jan 2020 8:35 am
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I like just a little single "slap back" delay.
Erv |
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Brett Lanier
From:
Madison, TN
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Posted 29 Jan 2020 8:45 am
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| Akai Headrush sounds as good or better than most of the newer high end pedals imo, and they go for around 100 bucks. |
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Detlef Webert
From:
Europe - DE
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Posted 29 Jan 2020 10:20 am
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| any experience with the BOSS DD-7 or DD-8 ? |
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Erv Niehaus
From:
Litchfield, MN, USA
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Posted 29 Jan 2020 10:32 am
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Good as any, better than most.
These have tap delay settings.
Erv |
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Detlef Webert
From:
Europe - DE
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Posted 29 Jan 2020 10:39 am
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Erv,
and compared with the echoplex ep103 ? |
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Erv Niehaus
From:
Litchfield, MN, USA
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Posted 29 Jan 2020 11:11 am
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I have no idea.
Brandon likes the DD-8.
Erv |
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Mark Perrodin
From:
Tucson Arizona, USA
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Posted 29 Jan 2020 12:22 pm
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with a tap tempo switch the echoplex can give you a 4
second delay so it's kinda like the sound on sound
function on an actual echoplex ep-3. long ago i had
an ep-3 and as soon as i started playing the ep103
it brought to mind that feel and sound. i sometimes
like the warble of a tape delay that is breaking down
and this does that admirably. dispatch master is
awesome too and having both makes for some
interesting delay stacking. |
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Ken Metcalf
From:
San Antonio Texas USA
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Posted 1 Feb 2020 6:27 am
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Tap Tempo
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