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Topic: Simple (?) C6 Request - Jimmy Day "Road Stop" |
Joe Alterio
From:
Irvington, Indiana
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Posted 8 Jan 2020 7:30 pm |
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I'm still learning my way around the C6 pedals and this one sounds like it is so simple - but it just has me stumped. Other than the first notes being strings 6, 5, 4, 3 on the 12th fret, it seems like Jimmy is only sliding down a fret or two to some very unusual chord the first two times - perhaps someone can easily "hear" what this change is and can tab it?
https://open.spotify.com/track/472Y3R69cxqx4EjwhMqZUp?si=9J_HUF6UR0Wf5XZzNSWCpg |
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John Steele
From:
Renfrew, Ontario, Canada
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Posted 13 Jan 2020 10:35 am
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Hi Joe,
I had to look that one up. I can't say for sure how Jimmy played it, but I can say with some certainty that the strange chord is F7#11 (An F chord with a B note on top).
You'll find the same sort of chord as the second chord in "Tenderly" and "On A Clear Day You Can See Forever" and "Take the A Train" (although in the case of A train, it's a II chord instead of a IV).
Being an admirer but not an expert on Jimmy Day, I'm not sure where Jimmy played it, but if asked to I would go to the 12th fret and lower the third string to B and also the 6th pedal lowering E to Eb.
It seems he slides down after the initial C chord, but maybe he returns to fret 12 for the F chord. Offhand, I don't know another voicing for the F chord which puts the #11 on the top in that locale.... but I'm not sure of the intricacies of Jimmy's setup. It's quite possible that he's using a G on his first string rather than D, which would perhaps introduce more possibilities.
Hope this helps - All the best,
- John |
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John Steele
From:
Renfrew, Ontario, Canada
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Posted 13 Jan 2020 2:36 pm
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Ok... after consulting this page of b0b's
https://b0b.com/tunings/stars.html
It seems that Jimmy did indeed use a G for his first string, and raised it a half tone with his 5th pedal. So, I would suggest this is perhaps the way he voiced that chord: (both string changes occur with the 5th pedal)
F7#11
G---3r--
E-------
C---3---
A-------
G---3L--
E-------
C-------
A-------
F-------
C-------
The other option for those who don't have this change, and have a 1st string D, they might do this for that three note pattern:
D-----------------
E---6(6)----------
C---------7-------
A---6--------6----
G-----------------
E---6(6)-----6(6)-
C-----------------
A-----------------
F-----------------
C-----------------
The G note achieved at the 7th fret can of course be played on the first string open if you have it, thereby avoiding the fret jump.
Thanks for making me find another voicing for a #11 chord I'd never found before !
- John |
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Joe Alterio
From:
Irvington, Indiana
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Posted 14 Jan 2020 7:32 pm
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| Thanks for this, John! I don't have a 3rd string lower on my C6...but I did figure out the E9 equivalent. Basically starting from the Es lowered at the 13th fret for the opening notes over the C chord, you slide down to the 10th fret with A and B pedals down and F lever engaged (E raise) and pluck strings 5,6,8. B/G/D# are the notes - so, G#dim? |
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