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D Schubert

 

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Columbia, MO, USA
Post  Posted 11 Jan 2020 6:08 pm    
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I play a Fender Stringmaster 2x8 in some bands. C6 and E13 tunings.

I play a Sho-Bud S-10 E9th with 3+4 in other band . I would like to find a one light-weight guitar that would cover both situations.

Ideally, that would be a single neck that had all the standard E9th features, that would also give me a strummable C6 tuning (or B6) clear across the neck with as few additional pedals or levers as possible. I don't think i would use the standard C6 pedal changes, even if they were there.

Is an S-12 tuning the answer? Please educate me.
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Greg Cutshaw


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Corry, PA, USA
Post  Posted 11 Jan 2020 6:51 pm    
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Check out this discussion:

https://bb.steelguitarforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=353239
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Dave Hopping


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Aurora, Colorado
Post  Posted 11 Jan 2020 8:33 pm    
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Seems like a U-12 would do fine.Lower the E's a half-step(RKL on mine) and b0b's your uncle.
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Thomas Sabatini

 

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Ohio, USA
Post  Posted 12 Jan 2020 7:15 am    
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Don't sleep on Johnny Cox's D13. In addition to Greg's link above, see this thread (https://bb.steelguitarforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=341331).

I'm a newbie, 7 months into the beast, but I know I'm getting farther on this tuning than I would have on the standard E/B Uni. Both sets of changes fall under the low root allowing you to mix/match elements from each tuning without transposing in your head. The one compromise -- the high 6th in the middle of the E9 tuning and lower 2nd in the middle of the C6th -- complicate your grips, but they also open up some cool new opportunities. It plays like a fully integrated universal tuning.
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Johnny Cox


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Williamsom WVA, raised in Nashville TN, Lives in Hallettsville Texas
Post  Posted 12 Jan 2020 11:46 pm    
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I have played E9/B6 and Bb/Eb6th universal tunings. I always disliked three things about both of these.

#1 I hated having to think in two different keys. Might as well have a double neck.

#2 I don't want to have to hold a knee lever to play in either B6 or Eb9th. Not necessary on my tuning.

#3 sacrificing pedal changes. With E9/B6 you only have the most basic pedal changes. On Bb6th you have the Bb changes but only A&B pedals and lowering Es from E9th. That was fine in the 50s but not now.
My D13TH has the same changes as a D10 with 9x8.
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Johnie King


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Tennessee, USA
Post  Posted 13 Jan 2020 7:33 am    
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Zane Beck was a great player on 4 pedals an 5 knees he also used Day pedal set up.
He loved Jazz but could play country on his tuning .
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