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Charlie McDonald
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Posted 14 Mar 2006 3:27 pm |
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Here is fobro Lee Wheeler's new changer.
He is somewhat cryptic about the materials--must be top secret--but here is his description:
"Basically, the actual string engaging member (which has the 50 year guarantee) is 21st/22nd century material which I craft. It WILL ruin, burn-up carbide cutting tools!...it has no aluminum or sig steel in the member-hence the 50 year guarantee.. it has mass and durability AND provides a SOLID!! foundation for the string to vibrate against. And will not wear down even on the wrapped strings....craft the instrument around the changer.....it is not designed as an "add-on."
For more information, contact Lee at wewawheeler@yahoo.com
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Adrienne Clasky
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Florida, USA
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Posted 14 Mar 2006 3:30 pm
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| What in the world could resist regular cutting tools? All I can think of is Kryptonite. |
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Tony Smart
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Harlow. Essex. England
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Posted 14 Mar 2006 3:56 pm
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| Pastry ? |
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Bill Hatcher
From:
Atlanta Ga. USA
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Posted 14 Mar 2006 4:09 pm
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| How is this unit mounted? |
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Sonny Priddy
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Elizabethtown, Kentucky, USA, R.I.P.
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Posted 14 Mar 2006 4:53 pm
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Is This The same Guy who built The Wheeler Steels? SONNY.
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Barry Blackwood
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Posted 14 Mar 2006 5:44 pm
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| Only one material could be that tough, therefore, I've determined that the the entire changer must be carved from a single block of fruitcake. |
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Jim Cohen
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Philadelphia, PA
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Posted 14 Mar 2006 5:53 pm
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A 50 year guarantee is impressive. How old is this young feller?  |
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Brian Henry
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Posted 14 Mar 2006 6:20 pm
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| This looks a bit like a sierra changer!! |
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Gary Shepherd
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Fox, Oklahoma, USA
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Posted 14 Mar 2006 9:59 pm
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I can't see how it mounts either. But I sure would like to try one out.
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Gary Shepherd
Carter D-10
www.16tracks.com
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Tony Glassman
From:
The Great Northwest
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Posted 15 Mar 2006 12:23 am
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Lee Wheeler is the guy who built Wheeler steel guitars.
He was based out of Portland Oregon [not to far from the Sierra shop]. Last I heard he relocated to Nashville back in the late 70's.
Also, he seems to have jumped the gun inventing a 22nd century material in 2006.[This message was edited by Tony Glassman on 15 March 2006 at 12:26 AM.] [This message was edited by Tony Glassman on 21 April 2006 at 03:29 PM.] |
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Charlie McDonald
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Posted 15 Mar 2006 5:19 am
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| Also, he seems to have jumped the gun inventing a 22nd century material in 2006. |
You can't afford to lag behind in technology.
I'll see if I can get Lee to respond to some of these questions. |
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Jack Stoner
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Kansas City, MO
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Posted 15 Mar 2006 5:42 am
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It looks like an interesting design. It would have to be installed in a guitar and heard to see what affect the materials used had on the sound (tone) as the material used for the changer finger can have a major affect on tone. And how the materials used would really hold up.
However to say it has a "50 year guarantee" is hard to take. That statement sort of throws up a "red flag". |
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ebb
From:
nj
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Posted 15 Mar 2006 2:45 pm
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| my fender 400 changer still works after 50 years |
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Donny Hinson
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Posted 15 Mar 2006 5:25 pm
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Looks very massive and heavy, almost twice as deep as most other changers.. I get the impression it would rob a lot of tone from the guitar? Though I've seen many, many changers get wear where the strings contact the tops of the fingers, I've yet to see one actually "break", so a 50 year guarantee is almost a moot point.
I'm up to trying new materials, though. Alloy 22? Nickel-cobalt? Titanium? Borium? Tungsten carbide? Irridium? Munimula?
I'll probably take titanium, though, thank you! |
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Stu Schulman
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Ulster Park New Yawk (deceased)
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Posted 15 Mar 2006 6:31 pm
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| Donny:Munimula?Felix the Cat? |
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Larry Bell
From:
Englewood, Florida
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Posted 15 Mar 2006 7:43 pm
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no, actually it was Ruff 'n' Ready, the cartoon series from the late 50's - early 60's
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2003 Fessenden S/D-12 8x8, 1969 Emmons S/D-12 6x6, 1984 Sho-Bud S/D-12 7x6, 1971 Dobro, Standel and Peavey Amps
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Jack Stoner
From:
Kansas City, MO
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Posted 16 Mar 2006 3:18 am
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My point on the "50 year guarantee" is, if some young guy (not me - I'm 6 bought a changer and it failed at say year 49, who would be around to honor the warantee and provide parts or a replacement....
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Donny Hinson
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Glen Burnie, Md. U.S.A.
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Posted 16 Mar 2006 3:54 am
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Munimula?
I don't know who came up with the word (which is actually "aluminum", spelled backwards). Yes, it was used in the old R&R cartoons, but was probably used before that in scientific parody. At any rate, who'd have ever thought it would rate 27,000 hits on Google"? |
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Charlie McDonald
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Posted 16 Mar 2006 6:33 am
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If munimula would keep the radiused portion of the finger (what do you call that surface?) from getting grooves, I think it would be a substantial change.
Still trying to get Lee to respond; he seems to be reluctant to brag.
I'd brag if I built a changer. |
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ed packard
From:
Show Low AZ
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Posted 16 Mar 2006 7:08 am
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There are a number of "coating" processes that may be applied to aluminum, and other metals,ceramics, etc. to make the surface harder...the best one that I can think of at the moment, and for the purpose is DLC = Diamond Like Carbon. It is applied via a vacuum system (deposition/sputtering). The part(s) may be masked so that the deposition is applied locally.
Titanium coatings are being used on cutting tools and knives...those might work well in the application also.
Mounting the shown device could be done by having the bottoms of the separator plates extended a bit front and back. These would be pressed against the body (underneath) by a bar and screws.
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Earnest Bovine
From:
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Posted 16 Mar 2006 8:15 am
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| almost twice as deep as most other changers |
This would improve tuning accuracy. An error in the rod's pull would cause only half the error in string movement, compared to other changers. |
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Donny Hinson
From:
Glen Burnie, Md. U.S.A.
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Posted 16 Mar 2006 2:03 pm
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Actually, the error difference would be proportional to the difference between the rod lengths of the old and "new" changer configurations, all other things being equal. In other words, probably insignificant. |
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Earnest Bovine
From:
Los Angeles CA USA
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Posted 16 Mar 2006 2:09 pm
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| Not sure what you mean by "rod length" but the difference would be proportional to the distance between the changer axle, and the spot where the tuning nut pushes on the raise bar (or lower bar). Looking at the photos above, especially the second one, it really doesn't look twice as long as a "normal" changer. In fact, it looks almost exactly the same as my Zum, Franklin, or Sho-Bud. So I don't think this new changer would be any better in that regard. |
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Brendan Mitchell
From:
Melbourne Australia
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Posted 16 Mar 2006 2:45 pm
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Looks like it's made from unobtanium .Very hard to get in quantities.
Brendan |
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Michael Garnett
From:
Seattle, WA
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Posted 16 Mar 2006 3:03 pm
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Well, seeing as how it's Jerry Lewis' birthday today (happy 80th, goofball) I think the next changer should be made of flubber.
Wahey, glaflavity glaven.
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