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Topic: Walker Stereo Steel effects? |
Brett Hansen
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Posted 9 Dec 2019 3:59 pm |
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| Am I going to lose any benefit if I dont run a rack effects processor? I already have a delay pedal and a reverb pedal but they aren't stereo pedals. Should I run them through the effects loop or just in between the PSG and the amp input? |
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Tom Dillon
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La Mesa, California, USA
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Posted 9 Dec 2019 5:35 pm
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| You should have no problem running a mono pedal in the Stereo Steel FX loop. Just use a couple of Y cables to send it from the mono pedal to the stereo FX loop. |
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George Kimery
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Limestone, TN, USA
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Posted 9 Dec 2019 6:36 pm Walker Stereo Steel amp effects
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I run a Wet Reverb pedal, a DD-3 delay, and a Black Box. All are mono. There are no left and right stereo inputs on the amp except some RCA jacks on the rear. There is single mono input on the front that comes through both channels, which you control in the power amp section. You could use the RCA inputs as a stereo feed. I think they are there to connect a tape player. I use them as inputs for my Evans rack mount stereo pre-amp. This set-up allows me to go from Stereo Steel to Evans just by moving the guitar cord from one to the other. I had that rack mount effects unit that everybody uses, but it was too complicated and I couldn't read the little screen. I liked the sound of my Wet Reverb better anyway and it is simpler, just two knobs.
As Tom pointed out. you can use the effects send and return for some or all your mono effects.
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Douglas Schuch
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Valencia, Philippines
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Posted 9 Dec 2019 6:40 pm
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GD is a great guy for sharing info, and I've contacted him a number of times about things directly or indirectly related to his amps. A few years ago I asked some of your questions, and here is his reply, in full. I don't think he would mind me sharing this (note, I was using cheap Beringer and a Zoom Multi when I contacted him, hence his mention of those):
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Well, my gut says it's a matter of taste in that we all have our own amounts of reverb we're looking for. I personally use more than say the typical Nashville/professional steel guy. If you use more, than you're going to want a better quality. I found the old Lexicons (not so much the new versions, the later suffer from big business corp cutbacks) and the current TC I sell offer quality. Course technology will continue to provide better quality in a smaller package with time so ... Just maybe the Behringer and Zoom would/could stand on it's own. Haven't chased them down lately.
With an SS, a rack mountable choice is convenient. The TC M-OneXL has by far the best options/features for a studio quality based processor. I've always believed "knob friendly" is the number one convenience when on stage and no other rack unit I've found offers individual volumes of each effect; ideal for quick/easy blending. Course stomp boxes could probably supply the knob convenience once understood, although I'd assume some kind of custom pedal board would have to be thought out. Just doesn't sound convenient.
Stomp boxes. The most intriguing for me are the high $ Strymon's. "IF???" I was going to chase around for the best, I'd try their delay and reverb pedals. The costs would end up close to a grand though. Hard to justify in today's gig market.
I actually bought one of these to be an emergency backup: http://r.ebay.com/DUkvHh . Quality sound? Naw, not really. But it does both effects, reverb and delay, and there is truly individual control of each.
Back to your dilemma. If you're happy with your tone and you've got a handle on it's controls/conveniences, probably don't need a TC. Course, you could buy used off of Ebay. I'd be happy to walk you thru programming a couple decent programs over the phone. Maybe you'll only be out a couple 100 bucks and if not happy, resell it and lose $50 or whatever. (If you actually do consider a used one, make sure it's an M-OneXL; XL's are the later versions).
That's just one guys op'. Luck on your inquiries, Doug. |
In my opinion, the newer stomp boxes are as good as the effects units - technology has gotten that good.
As for running them through the effects loop - I think you need stereo effects to do this - stereo in and out - as by the time you get to the effects loop, I believe the signal has been split into two channels. One option, if you run both delay and reverb, is to do one on each channel. But the sound will not be the same in different parts of the room. I run effects before the amp, and am happy with the tone I get.
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Brett Hansen
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Michigan, USA
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Posted 10 Dec 2019 5:53 pm
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| Is there a particular type of Y cord to use? What do I lose if I just run the mono pedals between the guitar and regular input And ignore the effects loop altogether? |
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George Kimery
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Limestone, TN, USA
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Posted 10 Dec 2019 9:17 pm Stereo Steel effects
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| Try it. If you like it, just stay with it. I tried the effects loop and didn't like it as good as direct from the guitar. Here is my chain: Guitar- Black Box - Volume pedal - Wet Reverb - DD-3 - Hum De-Bugger- amp input. I am happy with this set-up. I am using the Black Box sort of like a pedal board. The 3 stomp boxes are mounted to the top of the Black Box with 2 inch industrial velcro. |
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