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Topic: Maverick - Single knee lever only moving 1 E |
rockum
From: Miami, FL, US
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Posted 3 Aug 2019 6:55 pm
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First let me apologize for not knowing the names of the parts. It made it hard to explain and I am sure it will make it hard to understand.
Bought an older Showbud Maverick a while back and I've started trying to learn. I got most everything setup and tuned ok, but I noticed that the knee lever (I only have one) is not affecting the high E-string (4th string) only the lower E (8th).
I can see underneath that the lever is rotating an axle. The metal piece connecting the axle to the rod also moves, but the little donut-like bead on that piece doesn't seem to grab the rod it surrounds, it just moves back and forth leaving the rod still. Is the problem that it is not clamping on to the string?
If I am not mistaken, string 4 is the only one that is changed by both a pedal and the knee lever. I'm a little confused about how the C pedal and lever work together on the same rod/string. Once it is working correctly, what happens to that string when both pedal C and the knee lever are engaged? Do they tug against one another allowing only choice or do they work together lowering the pitch a half step and raising it a whole simultaneously? How does the hex tuning screw work on that string? Could this hex screw be the problem? I had to screw it out to the max to get the C pedal in tune.
Thanks folks. I appreciate your expertise and help.
PS. One more question, I get the impression that it is more common to have two knee levers. How hard is it to add a second lever to make the instrument more standard? Easy, difficult, or next to impossible? |
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John De Maille
From: On a Mountain in Upstate Halcottsville, N.Y.
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Posted 3 Aug 2019 7:13 pm
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If I remember correctly, the one knee lever lowered the 2nd and 8th string a half tone. There was no 4th string lower.
A pedal raised strings 5&10 a whole tone.
B pedal raised strings 3&6 a half tone.
C pedal raised strings 4&5 a whole tone.
It's been a while, but, I think I'm right. |
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K Maul
From: Hadley, NY/Hobe Sound, FL
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Posted 3 Aug 2019 7:32 pm
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It is a bit tricky, though not impossible, on a Maverick to lower string 4 and also raise it but as a learning tool it is probably better to leave it lowering the 2nd string. Yours may be doing that, or trying to. You may have overlooked it. Standard setups do lower both Es but if you study Lloyd Green’s playing you will gain insight on how to just use the Eb on string 2 instead of lowering 4.
Raising the Es to F on a second knee lever is a good idea. Even just raising 4 with a half-stop mechanism would be useful. It is not really worth modifying a Maverick beyond that point, in my opinion. _________________ KEVIN MAUL: Airline, Beard, Clinesmith, Donner, Evans, Excel, Fender, Fluger, GFI, Gibson, Hilton, Ibanez, Justice, K+K, Live Strings, MOYO, National, Oahu, Peterson, Quilter, Rickenbacher, Sho~Bud, Supro, TC, Ultimate, VHT, Williams, X-otic, Yamaha, ZKing. |
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richard burton
From: Britain
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Posted 4 Aug 2019 12:15 am
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There should be a torsion spring (arrowed red) holding strings 2 and 8 in the raised position.
Is the connecting piece (blue arrow) the part that you say is failing ? |
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Mike Perlowin
From: Los Angeles CA
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Mike Perlowin
From: Los Angeles CA
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rockum
From: Miami, FL, US
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Posted 4 Aug 2019 6:25 pm
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Then I am wondering if it has been altered... I'll try to post some pictures or a video soon. Maybe if you can see it, it will help. Thanks for each response. |
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Mike Perlowin
From: Los Angeles CA
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Posted 5 Aug 2019 3:02 am
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If the 4th string is not lowered, the guitar has probably not been altered.
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http://www.mikeperlowin.com http://soundcloud.com/mike-perlowin |
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Paul Redmond
From: Illinois, USA
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Posted 19 Aug 2019 7:39 pm
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The 4th strings were never lowered on Maverick's. On this kind of system, if a string is both raised and lowered, it must somehow be held in "neutral". Since pedal 3 raises #4, it can't lower to D#. On a Maverick it's one or the other. Back in 1978, I was able to make a whole new pulling system for my Maverick that would allow for both raises and lowers on a given string. I had no idea what I was doing, but the results turned out OK....five KL's along with the three pedals. The man who owns that guitar says he rarely even tweaks a string on the guitar, so I must have done something right. Look up "Hot Rod Maverick" in the Forum archives.
PRR |
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