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Topic: who plays short and long scale? |
Daniel McKee
From:
Corinth Mississippi
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Posted 1 Aug 2019 3:38 pm |
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| I prefer the feel of my 24 1/4 inch lap steel over the 23. They sound really different to me but I do prefer the tighter string feel so the 24 1/4 gets the most use. I do make more mistakes on the short scale. |
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Andy DePaule
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Saigon, Viet Nam & Springfield, Oregon
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Posted 1 Aug 2019 5:20 pm I also like the tighter strings so...
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| Daniel McKee wrote: |
| I do prefer the tighter string feel so the 24 1/4 gets the most use |
I also like the tighter strings so...
Easy solution for that is to use heavier string gauges on the short scale.
Example is I use a 56 for the low A and 15 on the high E of my short steel.
Todd set up my steel that way and I just changed the strings for the first time after two years of playing it almost every day. 
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Clinesmith Joaquin Murphy style Aluminum 8 String Lap Steel Short A6th.
Magnatone Jeweltone Series Lap Steel, Circa 1950? 6 String with F#minor7th Tuning.
1956 Dewey Kendrick D-8 4&3, Restoration Project.
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Daniel McKee
From:
Corinth Mississippi
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Posted 1 Aug 2019 6:37 pm
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| Andy, I may give that a try. I actually think my short scale captures a more authentic non pedal sound but I feel like my picks get caught in the strings which leads to some serious mistakes. |
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Andy DePaule
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Saigon, Viet Nam & Springfield, Oregon
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Posted 1 Aug 2019 7:44 pm If mistakes were a sin...
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Hi Daniel,
If mistakes were a sin I'd already be feeling the fire!...   
Attached is a copy of Don Helms tunings and the gauges he used written by him.
One of the forum members posted it years ago.
The B13th could be A6th or C6th with the same strings and just a couple or more strings retuned a little.
Beat of luck,
Andy
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Inlaid Star Guitar 2006 by Mark Giles. SD-10 4+5 in E9th; http://luthiersupply.com/instrument-gallery.html
2017 Mullen SD-10, G2 5&5 Polished Aluminum covering. Custom Build for me. Great Steel.
Clinesmith Joaquin Murphy style Aluminum 8 String Lap Steel Short A6th.
Magnatone Jeweltone Series Lap Steel, Circa 1950? 6 String with F#minor7th Tuning.
1956 Dewey Kendrick D-8 4&3, Restoration Project.
1973 Sho~Bud Green SD-10 4&5 PSG, Restoration Project. |
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Daniel McKee
From:
Corinth Mississippi
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Posted 2 Aug 2019 5:40 pm
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| Awesome, thanks for sharing that. Definitely gonna give it a try. I've actually been using the short scale for experimental stuff already so this should be interesting. |
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Andy DePaule
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Saigon, Viet Nam & Springfield, Oregon
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Posted 2 Aug 2019 6:30 pm I understand.
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I understand. exactly what you were saying.
I hate playing with loose strings.
Somehow having a strong resistance help my playing.
Gets me up to just a little below average on a good day! 
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Inlaid Star Guitar 2006 by Mark Giles. SD-10 4+5 in E9th; http://luthiersupply.com/instrument-gallery.html
2017 Mullen SD-10, G2 5&5 Polished Aluminum covering. Custom Build for me. Great Steel.
Clinesmith Joaquin Murphy style Aluminum 8 String Lap Steel Short A6th.
Magnatone Jeweltone Series Lap Steel, Circa 1950? 6 String with F#minor7th Tuning.
1956 Dewey Kendrick D-8 4&3, Restoration Project.
1973 Sho~Bud Green SD-10 4&5 PSG, Restoration Project.
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Bill Creller
From:
Saginaw, Michigan, USA (deceased)
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Posted 3 Aug 2019 12:51 am
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My ear tells me that a long scale early Rick frypan has a better tone, or that "Rick" sound, than the short scale.
Not sure how a Clinesmith long scale frypan would compare to a 30s Rick.
My 7 string is a mid 30s short scale, and I don't quite get that sound like a long scale..it's there, but just not like the long one... |
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Steve Lipsey
From:
Portland, Oregon, USA
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Posted 3 Aug 2019 12:55 am
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I’d suggest chatting with Todd...I’m sure he can comment on that
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Steffen Gunter
From:
Munich, Germany
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Posted 6 Aug 2019 11:44 am
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The Ric that Jeff Au Hoy plays at the 2014 Fort Collins concert looks like a short scale to me. This sound would do it for me.
Looking forward to the Clinesmith short scale frypan I ordered …
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Godfrey Arthur
From:
3rd Rock
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Posted 6 Aug 2019 4:03 pm
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Interesting thread!
What scale gets that Lindley tone?
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Mick Hearn
From:
United Kingdom
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Posted 7 Aug 2019 9:07 am
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I have 22 1/2" on my George Boards, 23" on my National Grande Console and 24 1/4" on my Remington. Of the three I prefer the 24 1/4" with more sustain.
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