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Russell Adkins
From:
Louisiana, USA
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Posted 24 Jul 2019 12:41 pm |
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David Hodan
From:
Denton, Texas; USA
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Posted 24 Jul 2019 2:25 pm Newman
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Jeff Newman had/has a course.
The Universal E9, B6 course by Jeff Newman. I have a copy.
Anyway, you don't really need it. Anything you learn for E9 and C6 translates pretty directly. E9 is very straight forward. You end up with a couple of extra slightly different grips. For C6 stuff you move up 1 fret and your grips move up a string. |
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Ian Rae
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Redditch, England
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Posted 24 Jul 2019 2:39 pm
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What David says. Although the uni can't do absolutely everything a fully loaded D10 can, the opposite is also true, and interesting things happen where the two tunings coincide. For instance the half-step raise on string 4 of the C6 (probably LKR) is the same change as the B pedal. The P7 that's an essential B6 change is also useful on E9 as it gives a good 7th chord with string 7 as the root. The A pedal is a useful melodic tool on the B6. Some of the melodic pockets turn out to be similar (unsurprisingly).
I think if someone were to analyse all the ways in which the two tunings come together, it could truly be called a universal course. Me? Sorry, too much on 
Remember - both tunings are really E9:- What we call "E9" has a minor 7th; B6 is E9 with a major 7th.
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Jerry Overstreet
From:
Louisville Ky
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Posted 24 Jul 2019 4:47 pm
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As an on again, off again player of the E9/B6 Universal 12 stringers I have some thoughts on this.
The problem with trying to use common E9/C6 tabs for U12 is that the strings, especially the lower ones don't line up. That requires converting as you play. That's difficult and frustrating if you're trying to play tab figures in real time.
Consider the player might very well be a beginner. This stumbling block might just prevent them from going forward with the Uni.
It's true, you can sit down and re-write the stuff to fit but who wants to do that?
Besides all that, there is so much more stuff available in a single tuning that many people don't realize.
It's my opinion that is one of the reasons we have fewer Universal players.
I've maintained this for years that there is a real need for instructional material that relates specifically to the E9/B6 12 string universal player. JMO. |
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Douglas Schuch
From:
Valencia, Philippines
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Posted 24 Jul 2019 7:54 pm
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If you want skype lessons, Joe Wright plays a Uni and gives lessons still, I think.
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Benjamin Davidson
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Posted 25 Jul 2019 2:55 am
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As Im learning the Universal tuning, I am simply using E9th tabs where the song is available or C6th tabs where the song is available. Trying to find good tablature for a specific piece is difficult enough as it is. Technique of picking and the bar can be found just about anywhere and applied.
Im using the Paul Franklin Method, and Mickey Adams book om E9th for my instruction. After a few sessions reading E9th/C6th tab and applying it to Universal is realitively smooth for me to where Im not transposing everything over again.
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Ian Rae
From:
Redditch, England
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Posted 25 Jul 2019 5:55 am
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I avoided the problem Jerry highlights by learning B6 right from the beginning, so I can read C6 tab a fret higher automatically. I started on a D10 and tuned the back neck down to B as I was curious about the uni and figured I might make the change at some point, quite soon as it turned out.
None of which is the slightest help if you've already learned C6, but good advice for beginners.
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Robert W Wilson
From:
Palisade, Western Colorado
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Posted 25 Jul 2019 8:31 am
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| New U12 player (wannabe) and had the same concerns. I am studying with Professor Twang whom I highly recommend! Using the 10 string E9 materials after one month I never think about the grips being slightly different. Your brain will auto correct. Yes it adds complexity but it is the least of my challenges. I love the wide range of tones available on U12. That said, E9 is a lifetime of study. I sometimes think about converting it to extended E9 because the low E has fabulous timbre while the low B is muddy. Seat time is the most important factor so I am not taking that guitar out of service anytime soon! |
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