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Ron Sodos
From: San Antonio, Texas USA
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Posted 20 Apr 2019 5:44 pm
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I have my 68 for 5 years now. Up until now I rarely had to tune the pedals. If I tuned the open strings all my pedals we're in tune.
Just the last month or so my 6th string won't stay. I tune it with the pedal down to pitch and have to tune the neutral (bottom hole) to pitch with Allen wrenches. I play a set usually an hour and I have to tune the neutral again. It goes flat quite a bit. I've been having to do this constantly lately. I thought it was a string so I changed it. Same thing. Any ideas??? |
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Jack Goodson
From: new brockton,alabama (deceased)
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Posted 20 Apr 2019 5:48 pm string?
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ron, put some loctite on the tuning screw....thanks jack |
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Ian Worley
From: Sacramento, CA
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Posted 20 Apr 2019 6:32 pm
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It sounds like the lower return spring just needs tightening. Do you have a lower on 6? If the spring is the problem you'll be able to see it by just flipping the guitar over -- activate and release the lower, the the return spring should pull the lowering finger back firmly against the body opening when you release it. If it doesn't your open note will be flat and inconsistent, in which case just need to add some tension to the return spring.
Tightening those springs is kind of a PITA, use vise grips to hold the tension rod while you reset the collar.
Keep in mind too that if it needs much additional tension to return correctly and consistently it could be an indication of other problems, something binding or in need of lubrication. |
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Paul King
From: Gainesville, Texas, USA
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Posted 21 Apr 2019 3:28 am
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Have you changed strings? Years ago I had an issue like that and I had changed strings. The 6th string was a plain and I put a wound on it. Don't even remember who told me but I went back with a plain and solved my problem. |
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Ron Sodos
From: San Antonio, Texas USA
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Posted 29 Apr 2019 7:03 pm
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There was a broken spring and a number of adjustments needed. Thanx to Rick Price, Emmons expert my 68 is back to perfect. Been playing it all evening and loving it!! |
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Jim Cohen
From: Philadelphia, PA
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Ron Sodos
From: San Antonio, Texas USA
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Posted 30 Apr 2019 12:42 am
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He sure did! LOL |
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Tony Prior
From: Charlotte NC
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Posted 30 Apr 2019 1:01 am
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Maintenance now and then goes a long ways. When I acquired my 81 a couple of years ago, my good buddy as well as Emmons Tech , Doug Palmer, changed a bunch of tuning screws and went thru each spring and collar. He changed them as he felt necessary.
I don't think, other than adjusting pitch at the tuning key post , that I have made any Ped/KL tuning adjustments on this guitar in 2 years other than touch up when changing strings.
This is obviously all Buddy's fault ! _________________ Emmons L-II , Fender Telecasters, B-Benders , Eastman Mandolin ,
Pro Tools 12 on WIN 7 !
jobless- but not homeless- now retired 9 years
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Pete Burak
From: Portland, OR USA
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Posted 30 Apr 2019 5:38 am Re: Emmons question
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Ron Sodos wrote: |
...If I tuned the open strings all my pedals we're in tune... |
I typically check/tune the highest Raise on any given string, and then the rest of the changes are usually in tune. |
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Ken Metcalf
From: San Antonio Texas USA
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Posted 30 Apr 2019 5:47 am
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Ron
For a small fee I can haul that old thing off. LOL _________________ MSA 12 String E9th/B6th Universal.
Little Walter PF-89.
Bunch of stomp boxes |
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Ron Sodos
From: San Antonio, Texas USA
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Posted 30 Apr 2019 7:12 am
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This guitar was completely refurbished by Bryan Adams senior Emmons tech at the factory before he passed. New light legs, lots of replacement parts etc. I had Jim Palenscar in San Diego set it up for my particular tuning and add a knee lever. It got out of sync before I learned how to tune it. Lol. Then Jim Loessberg gave me a lesson in tuning it and it has been perfect for a couple of years. I almost never had to touch anything but the open strings. Then as I said in the original post my 6th string started to give me a problem. But the minute Rick Price turned it over he saw the tiny spring that had broken. That was the culprit. Now it's perfect and loving it.Never had a push pull til this one and ever since I have it I'm definitely a fan. |
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Lee Baucum
From: McAllen, Texas (Extreme South) The Final Frontier
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Posted 30 Apr 2019 10:20 am
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Ron - I hope you didn't run into any bad traffic problems in Utopia!
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John Hopkin
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Posted 30 Apr 2019 10:32 am yeah,
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...on the way to eat at mac & ernie's in tarpley... _________________ ...honk if you've never seen an uzi fired out of a car window...
Mullen RP, MSA, Sho-Bud Pro II, Yamaha keyboards, MalletKat vibes |
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