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Topic: Curly Chalker lick |
Bobby Nelson
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North Carolina, USA
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Posted 24 Feb 2019 5:14 am |
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Anybody have an idea what position the lick, that starts at 0:26- 0:30 is played in? It is a deceptively simple sounding lick, but smooth execution of it is another story for me.
I haven't messed with it this morning, but if I remember correctly, I have been starting it on 5 & 6, and then grabbing 1 & 2, and moving to 4 & 5, but it's kind of awkward that way. |
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Jim Cohen
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Philadelphia, PA
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Bobby Nelson
From:
North Carolina, USA
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Tommy Mc
From:
Middlesex VT
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Posted 24 Feb 2019 8:56 am
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This is pretty close, I think.
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Bobby Nelson
From:
North Carolina, USA
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Posted 24 Feb 2019 9:47 am
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| That's good Tommy. Without listening to it again, I'm hearing one difference:In the first group, I'm hearing the 6, but in place of the 7, I'm hearing the 8 w/the F lever - which makes it a little tricky switching from the F to the E levers, leaving your version much easier to execute. Thanks, this is a lot more manageable tan what I was going after. |
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b0b
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Cloverdale, CA, USA
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Jack Hanson
From:
San Luis Valley, USA
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Posted 24 Feb 2019 11:56 am
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Everyone is gaga over Chalker's mastery of C6, and rightfully so. His E9 playing is often overlooked, which is borderline criminal. Case in point is the LP Nashville Sundown.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I9NjOOT7zQo |
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Chris Reesor
From:
British Columbia, Canada
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Posted 24 Feb 2019 12:18 pm
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Watch the solo; at 1:11 there is a sneaky little slant that might help explain what you are hearing , Bobby.
I just tried it using a slant on 8&6, then string 2 instead of the lever, and it works, though it will surely take some practice to get it to Curly's level.
Just using the F lever and the second string works too.
That is some slick E9 playing for sure.
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Bobby Nelson
From:
North Carolina, USA
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Posted 24 Feb 2019 2:49 pm
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Yes it is Bob. Curley's stuff to me is deceptively simple sounding.Changing grips from 6 & 6 to 4 & 5, along with switching from F to E levers quickly, and trying to get it smooth is, to me, pretty difficult.
Yeah Chris, I've found a couple way of doing it, and they are all hard to make sound smooth haha! today, I've been working with a variation of Tommy Mc's Tab, and it's one of the smoothest.
I'll check it out Jack. Back, sometime in the early 80s, when I was first tinkering with the Sidekick my dad bought me,I worked with an old pedal steel player at a garage who he said he was Don Helms cousin (who had taught him to play), and I never had any reason to disbelieve him, named Frankie Morrell, and he told me back then, that if I wanted to learn anything, to watch Hee Haw, because Curley had "more music in his little finger than anyone else" he'd heard |
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Larry Robbins
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Fort Edward, New York
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Len Amaral
From:
Rehoboth,MA 02769
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Posted 24 Feb 2019 4:39 pm
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| Curley was such a tasteful smooth player. His E9 neck is where the C6 neck usually is. |
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Bobby Nelson
From:
North Carolina, USA
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Posted 25 Feb 2019 3:09 am
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| Thanks Larry. I guess I should check Gregg's site before I ask questions, he seems to have everything - a valuable resource. - And, thanks Gregg for all your work. |
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Per Berner
From:
Skovde, Sweden
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Posted 25 Feb 2019 7:28 am
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| Jack Hanson wrote: |
Everyone is gaga over Chalker's mastery of C6, and rightfully so. His E9 playing is often overlooked, which is borderline criminal. Case in point is the LP Nashville Sundown.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I9NjOOT7zQo |
Couldn't agree more! "Alberta bound" is my favorite, followed by "Second cup of coffee". E9th instrumentals don't get any better than this! |
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Carl Kilmer
From:
East Central, Illinois
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Posted 25 Feb 2019 8:03 am "Second Cup Of Coffee" (Curly Chalker)
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"Second Cup Of Coffee" (Curly Chalker)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VbGwUV4NZbk
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Len Amaral
From:
Rehoboth,MA 02769
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Posted 25 Feb 2019 4:42 pm
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| I had that Gordon Lightfoot album Curly Chalker did and it got water damaged in storage. Is it available on CD? |
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Al Evans
From:
Austin, Texas, USA
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Posted 25 Feb 2019 5:31 pm
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Works out nicely in C6....
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b0b
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Cloverdale, CA, USA
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Fred Treece
From:
California, USA
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Posted 26 Feb 2019 10:25 pm
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| Len Amaral wrote: |
| Curley was such a tasteful smooth player. His E9 neck is where the C6 neck usually is. |
Well that explains it. I couldnĆ¢ā‚¬ā„¢t figure out what all the chatter about CurlyĆ¢ā‚¬ā„¢s E9 playing was about. I just thought hmm some guys are so good they can make either neck sound just like the other. |
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Chris Sattler
From:
Hunter Valley, Australia
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Posted 5 Mar 2019 12:34 am
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| Funny thing about this thread, which I hadn't seen before today, is that I had Curly's Gordon Lightfoot album on the turntable only last evening. It is a good listen. |
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Jack Hanson
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San Luis Valley, USA
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Posted 10 Mar 2019 1:35 pm
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| ...I have some cassettes from Tom Bradshaw's garage... |
You have three fewer now that mine have been delivered. I'm having a buddy burn a CD from one of 'em, one is playing in my boom box as I type, and I'm shopping for a nice old pickup from the '80s with a factory cassette deck to hold the other one.
Thanks, b0b. It's like becoming reacquainted with an old friend. |
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steinar
From:
Finneidfjord, Norway
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Posted 18 Oct 2019 12:54 pm Curly Chalker
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| Anybody figured out what Curly is playing on "Steel and Guitar Boogie" with Jimmy Capps on guitar? Nifty use of strings 9 and 10 on the C6. |
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John Swain
From:
Winchester, Va
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Posted 18 Oct 2019 1:18 pm
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| Steinar, remember CC tuned his bottom 4 strings on C6 to A,F,D,A high to low ! |
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David Nugent
From:
Gum Spring, Va.
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Posted 18 Oct 2019 7:18 pm
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| Fred..That is commonly referred to the "Chalker Setup", having the necks reversed. Ralph Mooney also had the E-9 on the rear neck but his front neck was normally tuned to a modified Dobro tuning. |
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steinar
From:
Finneidfjord, Norway
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Posted 18 Oct 2019 9:01 pm Curly Chalker
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| John, thanks, - haven`t read up on Curly, so this was useful and interesting information. Just couldn`t play what he`s playing on this C6 solo portion of the boogie after Jimmy has played his part, but now I understand that his different string set up may play a part. |
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Johnny Cox
From:
Williamsom WVA, raised in Nashville TN, Lives in Hallettsville Texas
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Posted 18 Oct 2019 9:19 pm
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Curly was a master on both tunings. He is another player that didn't lower his 4th string (E). Instead he raised it a whole tone to F# and lowered 8 half to Eb on the same knee (RKL). He also only lowered 2 a half tone along with 9 (RKR).
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