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Topic: Need chord name |
Bill Miller
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Gaspe, Quebec, Canada
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Posted 12 Dec 2018 10:09 am |
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I've been working on Aura Lee (Love Me Tender) and have found a chord voicing that seems to fit on the "sweet" word in " love me sweet". But the neither the guitar player nor I know what the chord is called. I know, I should have learned theory. Btw, this is supposedly a Buddy Emmons instrumental that I got off Youtube several years ago.
Okay, I play it in 'C', so if I'm on the 8th fret with A and B pedals held down and I engage right knee left lowering the 'A'note to 'G' and play strings 6,5,4, what is that chord?
I use the same configuration in the next line, but two frets down. It's not often that use the G lever in that context. |
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John Steele
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Renfrew, Ontario, Canada
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Posted 12 Dec 2018 12:22 pm
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I wish I could help, Bill, but I'm having trouble interpreting your explanation of positions.
>> if I'm on the 8th fret with A and B pedals held down and I engage right knee left lowering the 'A'note to 'G' and play strings 6,5,4
At the 8th fret, the A note would be on your 5th string with the A pedal. In order to lower it to G, you'd just get rid of the A pedal. I don't know what your RKL does.
In the key of C, the chord at that point in the song would be a D7 chord.
All the best,
- John |
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Bill Ferguson
From:
Milton, FL USA
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Posted 12 Dec 2018 1:01 pm
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Not sure of your explanation, but I believe you are hitting a f 9th chord.
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Erv Niehaus
From:
Litchfield, MN, USA
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Posted 12 Dec 2018 1:52 pm
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Bill,
I think you're right. 
Erv |
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Ian Worley
From:
Sacramento, CA
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Posted 12 Dec 2018 2:05 pm
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| Sounds like an augminished E# 17 chord to me, but your explanation is not clear. Knowing specifically what your lever actually does (what string/interval/split etc.) would make the answer simple and keep everyone from just guessing in the meantime. |
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Bill Miller
From:
Gaspe, Quebec, Canada
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Posted 12 Dec 2018 3:30 pm
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Yes, sorry. Firstly, my RKL raises the first string F# to G# and on the sixth string it's a split...G# to F# by itself, or G# to G with the 'B' pedal down. This refers to the open position.
So now I have the bar at the eighth fret. Both A and B pedals are down and I engage the RKL at the same time. I voice strings 6,5,and 4 only but strings 8 and 3 seem correct as a part of that chord.
It would probably help if you were listening to what Mr. Emmons was doing there. What Im hitting sounds correct to me but I could be a mile off. |
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Ian Worley
From:
Sacramento, CA
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Posted 12 Dec 2018 3:35 pm
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| then 6-5-4 is a diminished triad, A-C-Eb, with Eb on the bottom. Basically F7 without the root. |
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Jim Cohen
From:
Philadelphia, PA
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Posted 12 Dec 2018 3:49 pm
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| John Steele wrote: |
I wish I could help, Bill, but I'm having trouble interpreting your explanation of positions.
- John |
Well, welcome back John Steele! You've been away far too long. Don't be a stranger, now, y'hear?
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Bill Miller
From:
Gaspe, Quebec, Canada
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Posted 12 Dec 2018 4:39 pm
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Here's another reason I've got some of you confused, I just looked up the lyrics and the phrase I'm chewing on is:
"Love me tender, love me true"
...key of C with the chord in question on the word 'true'. I hear Buddy hit four chords in that passage with the fourth one being the trouble maker for me.
If it's F7 without the root then I guess the guitar player can just play F7 over what I lay down? |
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Jim Cohen
From:
Philadelphia, PA
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Posted 12 Dec 2018 4:48 pm
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| Bill Miller wrote: |
| If it's F7 without the root then I guess the guitar player can just play F7 over what I lay down? |
Well, if it's an F7 chord, he/she can just play "F". (Adding the 7th will be up to you.) But I think if you're in the key of C and you're on the lyric "true", you should probably be playing a D7 (or D9)...
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Ian Worley
From:
Sacramento, CA
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Posted 12 Dec 2018 5:32 pm
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still just guessing here... if you can post a youtube link or something of the passage it would illuminate things.
Here is Elvis (in key of D, a bit sharp):https://youtu.be/093GjYcDg-4?t=26. The chord at the word "true" is a I7 (phrase is I-III7-vi7-I7, leading to IV-iv-I). In the key of C that would be: C-E7-Am-C7(on "true"), F-Fm-C(on "fulfill"). Are you sure you're in "C"? |
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Bill Miller
From:
Gaspe, Quebec, Canada
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Posted 12 Dec 2018 6:51 pm
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I've made a mess of this right from the get go. It is in 'F' not 'C'.
I tried to find the Buddy Emmons instrumental on Youtube but it isn't up anymore. It certainly would be helpful if you could hear what he was doing with it. There's a modulation where a Fender Rhodes takes a ride. It's really a very pretty arrangement.
Last edited by Bill Miller on 13 Dec 2018 9:07 am; edited 1 time in total |
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Jim Cohen
From:
Philadelphia, PA
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John Steele
From:
Renfrew, Ontario, Canada
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Posted 12 Dec 2018 7:05 pm
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I think Ian's got it. I7. Knowing now that you're in F, and that your lever is a whole tone lower on string 6, and you're not playing a push=pull...  then it can safely be called F7.
I thought, by the lyric, that you meant the second chord in the song (in the second measure) but I think you mean in the 10th measure (?)
Howdy Jim - just jumping in to help another Canuck. I'll try to speak up more often - I hope things are great with you !
- John |
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Bill Miller
From:
Gaspe, Quebec, Canada
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Posted 13 Dec 2018 4:34 am
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| Thanks everyone, I guess we can wrap up this wild goose chase. ..or being so close to the holidays perhaps a wild turkey chase. |
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Alan Cannell
From:
United Kingdom
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Posted 13 Dec 2018 6:02 am
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| Just to save confusion , it’s on Buddy’s “One For The Road” album and is called Aura Lee , which is the correct title. Elvis nicked the melody and put lyrics to it ☹️ |
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