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Topic: New Information about the all new Jackson Steel |
Nick Reed
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Russellville, KY USA
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Ray Riley
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Des Moines, Iowa, USA
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Posted 9 Nov 2005 8:39 pm |
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Thanks Nick,, Ray
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Sho-Bud S-12 and a brand new N112
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Hook Moore
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Posted 10 Nov 2005 5:00 am
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| The Jackson Steel is capable of raising a string pitch one tone up and lower 1/2 tone down, returning to within one cent of the open note. No current manufacturer of pitch changers can make this claim. |
Hook
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[This message was edited by Hook Moore on 10 November 2005 at 05:00 AM.] [This message was edited by Hook Moore on 10 November 2005 at 05:02 AM.] |
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Mike Mantey
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Eastern Colorado, USA
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Posted 10 Nov 2005 10:09 am
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I see your quoting a portion of their page Hook. This information is inaccurate. I hope they will consider doing some more research before they say things like this. Our new Mullen Royal Precision will return 100% true every time. Whether raising or lowering a string, it comes back true. Precision mechanics is what our guitar is built around. We also offer guitars in exotic and lacquer finishes. I just think they should rephrase this to say most or some manufacturers today.
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Mike Mantey
Sales & Production Manager
Mullen Guitar Co., Inc.
(970) 664-2518 www.mullenguitars.com
[This message was edited by Mike Mantey on 10 November 2005 at 10:14 AM.] |
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Mike Vallandigham
From:
Martinez, CA
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Posted 10 Nov 2005 10:18 am
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LOL!! a half tone change, look out!
My mullen returns perfect, along w/ my emmons and my old beater ZB.
Can't most guitars change 1-1/2 tones and return true? That was the point of a pedal steel I thought.
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Bobby Lee
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Cloverdale, California, USA
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Posted 10 Nov 2005 10:53 am
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The claim is that a string is raised, then lowered, and returns exactly to the original pitch. On most guitars, the string will return a wee bit sharp due to an effect known as hysteresis. It is most noticable on the high E string of the E9th.
Keyless guitars have minimal hysteresis. Some builders of keyed guitars add "compensators" to counteract the hysteresis effect.
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Mark Eaton
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Sonoma County in The Great State Of Northern California
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Posted 10 Nov 2005 11:11 am
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Thanks for posting that, Nick.
This latest chapter in the Jackson Steel saga will most certainly stir up the group!
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Mark
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Hook Moore
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South Charleston,West Virginia
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Posted 10 Nov 2005 6:10 pm
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Yes Mike that was a quote from their information. I agree that they need to research a little before making those statements.
Hook
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Per Berner
From:
Skovde, Sweden
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Posted 10 Nov 2005 10:45 pm
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Reading that page, I didn't find much in the way of information, but quite a lot of marketing hype. Nothing that indicates anything revolutionary.
I think we should wait until it's been seen and played by a number of trustworthy forumites before we decide if it's bad, so-so or really good, or maybe even the best thing to come along since sliced bread. Patience, gentlemen!
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Tony Prior
From:
Charlotte NC
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Posted 11 Nov 2005 3:22 am
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I guess it comes down to this..
You can TELL me what my EARS are gonna hear..
OR
Just let MY EARS do there own thing...
I found that statement a bit over the edge...
It implies that EVERY Steel out there is inadequate. Even mine !
I tell you what..
when these Steels show up at a Trade show, they better return to 100% pitch..cuz ya know, thats the first thing we are all gonna look for...
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Jack Stoner
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Kansas City, MO
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Posted 11 Nov 2005 6:33 am
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While I can't comment on the current production models of the Mullen guitars, ALL others that I've played, including older Mullen's, do have the "hysterisis" issue on a string that is both raised and lowered. Some guitar builders have acknowledged that it exists and some have even devised compensation devices. Others will not acknowledge it or say "my guitar" doesn't have it.
There is obviously just the "salesman's hype" on the web site. The proof will be in the actual product.
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Nick Reed
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Russellville, KY USA
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Posted 11 Nov 2005 6:44 am
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| The guitars of today are finished in Formica with simulated wood grain. The Jackson Steel offers exotic woods with a high-gloss lacquer finish. |
I noticed in reading this, it looks like the Sho-Bud tradition of beautiful wood laquer bodies (over formica) will continue in the new Jackson Steel Guitars. Something Sho-Bud was always known for.[This message was edited by Nick Reed on 11 November 2005 at 06:49 AM.] |
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Glenn Austin
From:
Montreal, Canada
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Posted 11 Nov 2005 7:05 am
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| Will they be offering a Maverick model with exotic wood grain contact paper finish? |
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Robert Parent
From:
Gillette, WY
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Posted 11 Nov 2005 11:02 am
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There are lots of fine instruments on the market today so the competition will be much greater than in the Sho Bud era. Marketing hype alone is not going to take you very far in this market place. It will be interesting to see if they can even come close to the quality of lacquer finish that Williams Guitar has been producing of late, the mechanics of a Zumsteel or the mass production skills of Carter. I'll withhold judgement for now...
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James Morehead
From:
Prague, Oklahoma, USA - R.I.P.
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Posted 11 Nov 2005 1:06 pm
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| Glen, Your the best! Your twisted! LOL |
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Al Terhune
From:
Newcastle, WA
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Posted 11 Nov 2005 5:24 pm
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Mighty kind of you to hold your judgment for now, Robert. And, simply can't wait until you decree your judgement!
And, no, I've not had a drop as I type this...
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Jerry Roller
From:
Van Buren, Arkansas USA
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Posted 11 Nov 2005 9:39 pm
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I talked with David a great deal about this new guitar and he told me a lot about it and I would not advise jumping to any conclusion that it is not all David claims it to me. He is a brilliant mind and knows what he is doing and I for one expect it to be a great guitar and certainly not one to be taken lightly.
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Bobby Boggs
From:
Upstate SC.
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Posted 11 Nov 2005 10:02 pm
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Mike Mantey
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| Our new Mullen Royal Precision will return 100% true every time. Whether raising or lowering a string, it comes back true. |
If the new Mullen will do this without a lower return compensator. My hat is off to the Mullen crew.
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John Bechtel
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Nashville, Tennessee, R.I.P.
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Posted 11 Nov 2005 11:09 pm
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As for beautiful wood~grain Laquer finish, the Bethal Steel would be very hard to beat! Big Jim Murphy's Two~Tone Steel was one of the best looking Laquers I've ever seen!
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Andy Greatrix
From:
Edmonton Alberta
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Posted 12 Nov 2005 12:27 am
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| A Fulaka guitar is a beautiful sight, not to mention a great mechanism. |
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kyle reid
From:
Butte,Mt.usa
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Posted 12 Nov 2005 12:55 am
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| Robert! Not only can they come close,they can equal whatever others are doing, just about every manufacturer has spent at least 30 years copying each other when it comes to finish & all other features like, changers, rollers, pickups, ect. Just like todays Automobiles, Its a Copy Cat World! kr |
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Lee Baucum
From:
McAllen, Texas (Extreme South) The Final Frontier
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Posted 12 Nov 2005 7:49 am
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I have a mid-90's Mullen with fresh Jagwire strings on it.
On the 4th string I can play this sequence, plucking the string only once:
E>F#>D#>E
According to my two tuners, the last E is still in tune.
Likewise, on the 5th string I can play this sequence, plucking the string only once:
B>C#>A#>B
Again, the final B is still in tune.
Is hysteresis overcome by a better changer or by a better string?
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Lee, from South Texas
Down On The Rio Grande
Mullen U-12, Evans FET-500, Fender Steel King
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Ricky Davis
From:
Bertram, Texas USA
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Posted 12 Nov 2005 9:18 am
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Try this Lee>
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and see what you come up with?
Ricky
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b0b
From:
Cloverdale, CA, USA
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Posted 12 Nov 2005 9:41 am
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I'm sure it's a fine guitar, but the web designer needs a course in English sentence structure:
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| David was a builder of Sho-Bud steels. Jackson Steel Guitar Company is founded by David Jackson. He designs and builds Jackson Steel Guitars. Sho-Bud steels have been played and owned by Buddy Emmons, Lloyd Green, Tommy white, Steve 'Rabbit Easter. Emmons Steel, Sho-Bud, Zumm, Mullen, Marlen Steel, Remington Steel Guitars, Excel Steel, Derby Steel Guitars, Fessenden Steel Guitars, Gibson guitars, Taylor guitars. Karen Peck and New River birthed the new line of Jackson Steel Guitars on July 24, 2005 at their homecoming. Southern Gospel music as well as Country Gospel music, Jazz, Soul, Rhythm and Blues, Traditional Gospel, Black Gospel, Sacred Steel all use steel guitars, lap steels, slide guitars, frypan steel. Jackson steels the ultimate sound. Jackson Steel Guitar the next generation in steel guitars. Jackson Steel Guitars, David Jackson, Harold Shot Jackson, pioneer, innovator, design, production, pedal, Sho-Bro, Grand Old Opry, instruments, dobros, Country Music Hall of Fame, Nashville, Tennessee, builder, Sho-Bud, Buddy Emmons, Lloyd Green, Tommy white, Steve 'Rabbit Easter, Zumm, Mullen, Marlen, Remington, Excel, Derby, Fessenden, Gibson, Taylor, Karen Peck and New River, homecoming, Southern Gospel, Jazz, Soul, Rhythm and Blues, Traditional, Black, Sacred, lap, slide, frypan, ultimate sound. next generation |
The above is an unedited copy/paste from the bottom of the page.
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Al Terhune
From:
Newcastle, WA
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Posted 12 Nov 2005 10:09 am
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Something tells me that weird paragraph is meant to be a response for search engine hits to cover all the bases and get as much traffic as possible. A bit of a mistake to include it as is...eh?
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