Using Back Neck as a Slide Guitar?

Gordon Sharp · From: Kingston, Tennessee

Wanted to know if any body,instead of using the c6 neck takes two strings off and uses it just as a regular slide guitar? The band I play with plays more southern rock than country and I dont want to carry another guitar.Did I mean 4 strings.I do play slide guitar but get tired of getting up and down so much. Off the subject but wanted to say get well soon to Ted and thanks.

Larry Strawn · From: Golden Valley, Arizona, R.I.P.

Gordon,,,
I don't have a D-10 right now,, but I have been giving this very thing some thought, thinking about getting one for this reason, exept I think I would want to leave all 10 strings on that back neck, just leave the pedals off and play it non-pedald.

Larry

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Bobby Lee · From: Cloverdale, California, USA

I've heard that some rock slide players only use 5 strings (Derek Trucks? Keith Richards?). You could just use every other slot and have a nice wide string spacing.

David Doggett · Posted 5 Nov 2005 5:55 pm

Another option is to use an S10 E9 and clamp a 6 or 8 string lap steel onto it for slide. Or try a Sacred Steeler E7 tuning on the inside neck. This tuning is great for slide guitar.

Ron Randall · From: Dallas, Texas, USA

Yep,
The sacred steeler E7 tuning is great for blues and rock.

David L. Donald · From: Koh Samui Island, Thailand

David Mason · From: Cambridge, MD, USA

I haven't ran across any Duane Allman slide lick that doesn't work just fine in standard C6th tuning? You have to skip strings for sure, but Duane was a fingerpicking "touch" player any way, not a Foghat/Thorogood/Elmore-derived blaster anyway. If you keep the tuning you'll get the advantage of all the chordal possibilities too. The first two songs I learned on C6th were "Whipping Post" and "Stormy Monday", if that gives you any idea of my orientation (Snippets of Beethoven's 6th were the third thing, still crawling, still crawling). I still play these, they lay out great in that tuning with endless parallel variations available. Rock slide playing is based in blues, and the C6th is a terrifying blues tuning - the licks you want are already in there, you know?

Larry Robbins · From: Fort Edward, New York

Yes and dont forget"Statsboro Blues" is right there in the C6 as well! Why not keep the pedals and the versatility of the c6 neck in the first place?

John McGann · From: Boston, Massachusetts, USA * R.I.P.

Every C6th copedant I have ever seen has the 3rd string lower to B- so there's your B and E strings like a "slide guitar"- combine with your 5th string G and you have the open strings of standard tuned guitar right there. Pedal 6 gives you an open G triad strings 5-3 for that G tuning. If you have the 4th lower you can combine that with the 3rd lower and get your Elmore James open E.

So there are the three most often used slide guitar tunings right there, at least the top three strings, where most of the money is. This is before seeing the obvious C triad in open tuning...

Oh yeah, then there is all the other cool stuff in C6th tuning!

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Jeremy Moyers · From: Lubbock, TX

With Lonestar I have no use for a c6th neck, but I do have to cover dobro and steel in the same song, so I tune my C6th to open G and run a matchbro throught my effects loop on my Steelking. By doing this I can turn the matchbro off and on via footswitch, and when I am not using the matchbro it is completely out of my signal path. I also use the G tuning for lap stuff, so I could use the same neck for rock slide playing if i needed.

Gaylon Mathews · From: Jasper, Georgia

I don't use C6th with Gretchen either. I was looking at how bad the strings were on C6th neck the other day and decided to take 4 of the strings off and tune it like a dobro just for laughs. Then later, after playing around a while I was gonna change the strings. But, so far I have just left those 6 strings on there tuned like a dobro. I will eventually change them I guess but right now I'm having a ball just messing with the idea of having a dobro tuning on the back neck.

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Grant Johnson · From: Nashville TN

I agree that one can get alot of mileage out of the C6 tuning without touching a pedal especially with the high G string instead a D at string one.

Here's a link to Jeff Surratt's Marrs "Cat-Can" Steel:
http://www.b0b.com/infoedu/surratt.html

Essentially he has a dobro emulating six string neck as opposed to a C6 on his steel....
pretty cool!

[This message was edited by Grant Johnson on 06 November 2005 at 01:12 PM.]

Russ Tkac · Posted 6 Nov 2005 1:36 pm

Al Perkins played some great slide on his back neck tuned to A.

Mark Switzer · From: Los Angeles California, USA

Wasn`t Ralph Mooney tuning his rear neck like a Dobro years ago, or was that my imagination?
Derek Trucks was using all six strings on his guitar every time I`ve seen him. He uses open E at all times. Keith does use a 5-string guitar in open G.

Mike Perlowin · From: Los Angeles CA

Michael Garnett · From: Seattle, WA

Mark -

Moon had his back neck tuned basically to E9th, to my recollection, but he had 5 pedals and 1 knee lever doing the pulls. When asked what the front neck was tuned to he said he didn't know because he hardly used it.

Here's his tuning from the Winston/Keith book:

G#
E
B
G#
F#
E
D
C#
Bb
E

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