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Cameron Fulp
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Lindale Texas, USA
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Posted 21 Sep 2018 4:32 pm |
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| Hi there, I am asking a question for my grand father who plays a telonics combo with a G major 2. He plays a sierra Universal with a triple coil pick up. Does anyone on the forum mind sharing their settings, or any professional settings for a smooth Soundr with a triple coil pick up. |
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David Wright
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Pilot Point ,Tx USA.
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Posted 22 Sep 2018 3:42 am
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Here is what I use, It might be a good starting point, Remember, Pickup, steel, and most of all Hands play a part of tone...
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Dale McPherson
From:
Morristown, Tennessee, USA
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Posted 22 Sep 2018 3:52 am
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Here's mine.
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Greg Cutshaw
From:
Corry, PA, USA
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Dale Rottacker
From:
Walla Walla Washington, USA
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David Hodan
From:
Denton, Texas; USA
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Posted 22 Sep 2018 11:26 am telonics patches
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Telonics provides a great set of patches for the G Major 2 modeled from great players tone. Franklin, Johnson, Mooney, Chalk. They're all in there. The best way to use and modify them is with a computer/MIDI setup but if you just get them loaded in it's quite easy to find some that will sound great. The G Major 2 patches can control the amps effects too which is probably the main reason they promote this rack effects unit. It's sorta obsolete in some corners now and some think too complex but come on, you play a steel guitar.
I run the mid freq and cutoff much lower than most here and think the telonics amp sounds great with everything else set pretty much mid-range.
I wouldn't trust David Wright's advice here though. His Speaker cover is on crooked so I don't know how he'd get the knobs right. His tone is all in his right hand and (maybe both) ears.  |
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Steve Spitz
From:
New Orleans, LA, USA
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Posted 22 Sep 2018 12:58 pm
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Cameron,
If it helps, the telonics owners manual shows a few different settings, and they all sound good.
I think the Telonics manual may be the most user friendly guide of any piece of gear you’ll find. It’s likely on the net if you don’t have it, or just call them and they will hook you up.
Dave has a gift for explaining things that will Make using the amp and all the features easy to understand. In addition to just getting cool settings as a starting point, you’ll understand how to get the most out of it. I’m not a high tech guy, and he made it easy and simple for me. |
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Dale Rottacker
From:
Walla Walla Washington, USA
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Posted 22 Sep 2018 3:44 pm
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| Steve Spitz wrote: |
Cameron,
If it helps, the telonics owners manual shows a few different settings, and they all sound good.
I think the Telonics manual may be the most user friendly guide of any piece of gear you’ll find. It’s likely on the net if you don’t have it, or just call them and they will hook you up.
Dave has a gift for explaining things that will Make using the amp and all the features easy to understand. In addition to just getting cool settings as a starting point, you’ll understand how to get the most out of it. I’m not a high tech guy, and he made it easy and simple for me. |
Amen to that Steve... Dave doesn’t know how to give Yes/No answers... he’ll break it down and give you the skinny on your questions.
One of the few manuals you almost enjoy reading, it’s so well written.
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Steve Spitz
From:
New Orleans, LA, USA
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Posted 22 Sep 2018 5:08 pm
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Well said Dale. And, I’m told that Dave will go over every feature on the amp on a phone call. He REALLY wants you to know how to use that amp.
I bought mine at a show, and when I did, he took me aside and went over every single feature. Then I received the amp and the manual. It’s very well written, as Dale mentioned.
The manual describing the presets for the effects processors are strong as well. The way Dave describes the sounds on the various presets is great. Simple to understand. I’m not a “rack guy” but with these presets and that manual, it’s hard to get a bad sound. |
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Christopher Woitach
From:
Portland, Oregon, USA
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Posted 22 Sep 2018 10:39 pm
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The specifics are well covered here, especially Greg’s clear and (as usual) thoughtful review.
I have owned my 500A for a few years, with the Lexicon with the fantastic presets Telonics provides and a 15. I love the amp in every way, but my favorite features are the Blend knob, which generally darkens or brightens the overall tone without having to touch the bass, treble, and mids, and the truly inspired direct out, works so well I rarely bother to mic the amp, absolutely amazing
The amp also works so well for archtop jazz guitar that I got a 500C Mini just for that. People who played with me for years are amazed at the tone!
Best amp I’ve ever owned, bar none
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cw@affmusic.com
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Billy Murdoch
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Glasgow, Scotland, U.K.
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Posted 23 Sep 2018 1:00 am
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Is it possible to get a manual of the G major presets ?I use a Telonics 1000 pre amp which is similar to the preamp on the combo.
Best regards
Billy |
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Dale Rottacker
From:
Walla Walla Washington, USA
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Posted 23 Sep 2018 9:16 am
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| Christopher Woitach wrote: |
The specifics are well covered here, especially Greg’s clear and (as usual) thoughtful review.
my favorite features are the Blend knob, which generally darkens or brightens the overall tone without having to touch the bass, treble, and mids, and the truly inspired direct out |
Christopher, when I first got my 500C 212, I talked with Jody Cameron on what settings he was using for recording, cause I knew how happy he, and the recording engineer’s were with the DI from the Telonic’s.
I ended up using less mid level cut than Jody (-10 instead of -15), but even he loved what I got with that for recording. That said, I was NOT very happy with the LIVE sound I was getting. It seemed that amp placement was really important to how I was hearing it. I don’t know if this is something peculiar to Telonic’s amps or if it’s just me.
What I was wanting, was to have my live sound reflect my recorded sound and I wasn’t getting that. What I was getting was a much mellower live sound than the rich recorded sound I was getting.
What ended up working for me, was to move the amp about 8-10 feet behind me and setting it on top of 2- 15†cabinets I have. That seems to be what it took to get the same Live sound as my Recorded sound. I also talked to Tommy Detamore about this, and he thought maybe there was something to the idea that it may take some distance away from the amp to let the tone “Developâ€. I’ve heard this idea with others concerning the Telonic’s amps as well.
Just wondering if this has been your experience as well?
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https://www.youtube.com/@steelinatune
*2021 MSA Legend, "Jolly Rancher" D10 10x9
*2021 Rittenberry, "The Concord" D10 9x9
*1977 Blue Sho-Bud Pro 3 Custom 8x6
https://msapedalsteels.com
http://rittenberrysteelguitars.com
https://www.telonics.com/index.php
https://www.p2pamps.com
https://www.quilterlabs.com |
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Cameron Fulp
From:
Lindale Texas, USA
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Posted 23 Sep 2018 12:41 pm
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| Thanks guys , I tossed all the info over to my Grandaddy , he’s a happy camper ! Thanks Guys 😀 |
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Cameron Fulp
From:
Lindale Texas, USA
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Posted 23 Sep 2018 12:47 pm
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| Thanks guys , I tossed all the info over to my Grandaddy , he’s a happy camper ! Thanks Guys 😀 |
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Paddy Long
From:
Christchurch, New Zealand
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Posted 23 Sep 2018 6:23 pm
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Cameron here's the link to the TCA-500 combo amp manual
https://www.telonics.com/products/proaudio/downloads/TCA-500C_9289E.pdf
This includes a few sample settings to use as a starting point to tweak your personal tastes!!
Billy here's the link to the TC G Major2 efx unit just in case you don't have that: (I'm pretty sure Dave can email you some patches for the G-Major if you need them)
http://cdn-downloads.tcelectronic.com/media/216788/tc_electronic_g-major_2_manual_english.pdf
A nice addition, when using this combination of amp and Efx unit is the Telonics "Handy Patch" Midi controller, which allows you to change patches, edit, and adjust various parameters of each patch on the fly (or you can save them) - as your sitting at your guitar ! There is a section in the Manual describing it's use.
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Billy Murdoch
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Glasgow, Scotland, U.K.
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Posted 23 Sep 2018 10:55 pm
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Thanks Paddy,
I have the manual as supplied by the manufacturer.I was looking for some of the patch settings for PSG .I will get in touch with Dave.
Hope everything is good with You.
Take care. |
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Gary Reed
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Posted 24 Sep 2018 4:40 am
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Christopher Woitach
From:
Portland, Oregon, USA
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Posted 24 Sep 2018 1:06 pm
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Dale
I do think the amp placement really matters as far as the player’s perspective goes - I like it best about 5-8 feet behind me, and raised up is great if I’m anywhere near the bass amp. That’s true for me with all amps, especially with jazz guitar
The amazing thing is the live sound from the audience’s perspective - it has very close to a 180 degree spread, where it sounds the same throughout the room. I’ve gotten so used to amps that have a much narrower spread that it was a huge surprise to hear from my musician friends what they heard.
Because of this, if my amp placement isn’t ideal, I try to play (as best I can) as if it was, rather than dinking around much with the settings. It seems to work, although the worst thing about being a live musician is never really knowing what you sound like to others...
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Bill Ferguson
From:
Milton, FL USA
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Posted 27 Sep 2018 2:00 pm
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Here are mine. Dave Beaty saw these and said no way!
Then I played my Carter for him at Dallas and he took pictures of my settings and said it was one of the best tones he had heard from a Telonics amp.
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AUTHORIZED George L's, Goodrich, Telonics and Peavey Dealer: I have 2 steels and several amps. My current rig of choice is 1993 Emmons LeGrande w/ 108 pups (Jack Strayhorn built for me), Goodrich OMNI Volume Pedal, George L's cables, Goodrich Baby Bloomer and Peavey Nashville 112. Can't get much sweeter. |
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Tony Glassman
From:
The Great Northwest
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Posted 27 Sep 2018 3:49 pm
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My settings for an Emmons Legrande are similar to Bill F's except: bass @-4, mid freq at 700 & mid level @-11.
Initially, I thought the amp was harsh sounding with unpleasant harmonics on the third string in general and on all strings above the 15th fret.
These problems totally disappeared once I re-set the amp PRE-GAIN as directed in the (well written) Telonics manual. The instructions guide you in setting up the preamp optimally for your individual guitar's pickup(s).
I never thought much about setting pre-gain before. I knew that it had to be lower than the master volume for optimal clarity but this step turned out to be the single most important variable for getting the tone I wanted. Now, I love it this amp. |
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Dale McPherson
From:
Morristown, Tennessee, USA
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Posted 27 Sep 2018 4:27 pm
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| Some times the "guy" thing is to disregard any written instructions. With this amp, I strongly recommend that you read the directions first and then go back and use the info. It will make a difference. I feel honored that Dave called me and went over every detail. I highly recommend the amp. It is clean at any fret or volumn level. You can hear every note. Pricey, yes but in a class of its own. |
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John Macy
From:
Rockport TX/Denver CO
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Posted 29 Sep 2018 11:23 am
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Lloyd Green’s settings from the Sweetheart of the Rodeo sessions. 12” speaker
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Rockport, TX
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