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Steven Welborn

 

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Ojai,CA USA
Post  Posted 20 Sep 2018 8:12 pm    
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I have a '36 lap with horseshoe p'up. Do these loose charge over time and benefit from re-mag? Smile
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Donny Hinson

 

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Post  Posted 21 Sep 2018 6:25 am    
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We really need more info. How long have you had the guitar? Is the pickup working acceptably? How well? Magnets can lose their strength, due to age or other factors, but low output can also be due to a pickup coil problem. Or, it can be due to a problem with the pot(s) or the wiring.
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Jim Sliff


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Post  Posted 22 Sep 2018 6:08 pm    
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I have never encountered he problem with guitars I own or have serviced.

But I'll add another question - *IF* something seems wrong, have you 1) had a qualified guitar tech measure the pickup's DC resistance and electronic output compared to known good ones as standards; Output also needs to be checked at the jack, as vintage pots sometimes go bad and cause a drop in output (this is not usually DIY fix with fader treatment - and never with "contact cleaner")

if so has the magnet been physically hit hard (especially by a metallic object) or been next to another magnetic object - a strong magnet, a transformer etc?

They DO lose some magnetism over time but it's audibly inconsequential. If the pickup is weak sounding the cause is usually a short somewhere in the wire coil or bad solder joint. It's rare for a loss of magnetism to be the cause.

So if something is wrong, take it to a tech.
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Tom Wolverton


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Post  Posted 22 Sep 2018 8:12 pm    
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My ‘36 B6 Ricky bakelite lap steel seems to have changed a bit in the last 10 years or so. The tone has gotten a bit more weak and trebly. What else could it be?
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Donny Hinson

 

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Post  Posted 23 Sep 2018 7:30 am    
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Tom Wolverton wrote:
My ‘36 B6 Ricky bakelite lap steel seems to have changed a bit in the last 10 years or so. The tone has gotten a bit more weak and trebly. What else could it be?


While it could be the magnet, it could also be a shorted or open pickup, or a wiring issue. You need to check the resistance of the pickup with an ohmmeter, and it should read a few thousand ohms.
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Cartwright Thompson


Post  Posted 23 Sep 2018 7:39 am    
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https://steelguitarforum.com/Forum2/HTML/006757.html
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Steven Welborn

 

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Ojai,CA USA
Post  Posted 23 Sep 2018 1:19 pm    
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Cartwright-- Very informative link. From what Rick Aiello and Lollar have to say, sounds like the answer to the posted question is a definite 'yes'. Goin on 80 yrs now with these prewar p'ups.
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Jon Light


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Saugerties, NY
Post  Posted 24 Sep 2018 2:22 am    
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Thanks for posting that, Cartwright. Saved me having to search for it.

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Lee Baucum


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Post  Posted 24 Sep 2018 4:04 am    
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They will remain functional ... i.e. still put out a usable signal ... all the way down to the 30 gauss (midgap) range ...

But thats like having a Maserati runnin' on 3 cylinders w/ two flat tires ...


I love it! Surprised
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