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Topic: Sarno earth drive |
Nick Waugh
From: United Kingdom
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Posted 3 Jun 2018 4:11 pm
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Can anyone explain why my earth drive pedal has stopped working with my pedal steel, but works perfectly with my guitar? What happens when using it with my pedal steel is, the light comes on and the volume works, but I am getting no drive what soever. It just gets louder.
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Jean-Sebastien Gauthier
From: Quebec, Canada
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Posted 4 Jun 2018 6:03 am
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I had the same trouble with a fuzz pedal and it seems that its an impedance problem. My volume/tone pedal change the impedance so I put a Lil Izzy after the volume/tone pedal and it work! |
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Ken Metcalf
From: San Antonio Texas USA
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Posted 4 Jun 2018 6:17 am
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Do you have the distortion before the VP? Try that. |
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Nick Waugh
From: United Kingdom
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Posted 4 Jun 2018 6:43 am
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The weird thing is that it worked fine, placed after the VP. I've been using it without issues for about 2 years. Now it mostly doesn't work except for raising the volume. However it sometimes works like just now when I went to try out the above suggestion. It is working now, but the normal pattern is that it will stop working again. |
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Lee Baucum
From: McAllen, Texas (Extreme South) The Final Frontier
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Posted 4 Jun 2018 7:06 am
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I recommend sending an email message to Brad Sarno. |
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Paddy Long
From: Christchurch, New Zealand
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Posted 4 Jun 2018 5:37 pm
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I have always run mine before the volume pedal - straight out of the guitar into the Earth Drive, then to the VP
Works fine evereytime _________________ 14'Zumsteel Hybrid D10 9+9
08'Zumsteel Hybrid D10 9+9
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Eric Dahlhoff
From: Point Arena, California
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Posted 4 Jun 2018 8:34 pm Earth Drive
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Are you using it on battery or power plug?
Light comes on?
You're not by some chance using a TRS cable?
The only problem I've ever had with my ED is running the battery down. _________________ "To live outside the law you must be honest." (Bob Dylan) |
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Nick Waugh
From: United Kingdom
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Posted 7 Jun 2018 5:04 am
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I tried using in front of my VP and it works now. This is a pain because I don't want to put my delay pedal before my VP, so I have to plug in the fuzz pedal to the VP and from the VP into the delay and then delay into the amp! Before I had a mini pedal board set up to that I could plug in one end and out the other. This worked for about 2 years. Wierd. |
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Jack Hanson
From: San Luis Valley, USA
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Posted 7 Jun 2018 5:42 am
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Nick Waugh wrote: |
...I have to plug in the fuzz pedal to the VP and from the VP into the delay and then delay into the amp! |
Many will agree that the best results from a dirt pedal are achieved between the instrument and the volume pedal, and the best results from a delay are between the volume pedal and the amp. |
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Jon Light (deceased)
From: Saugerties, NY
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Posted 7 Jun 2018 6:21 am
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Stating the super obvious but you realize that the amount of signal that you feed into any distortion pedal will greatly affect the amount of distortion the circuit generates, right? Hitting a distortion box with half-pedal vs. hitting it with the volume pedal wide open will yield night & day results. Putting the distortion before the vol pedal eliminates this variability.
Putting it after the vol pedal is fine if you play into it with full vol pedal and adjust the output with the level control on the ED. But you have to change how you use the volume pedal when using distortion. |
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Paddy Long
From: Christchurch, New Zealand
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Posted 7 Jun 2018 5:43 pm
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Hi Nick
I'm not sure where you put the Earth drive physically -- on the floor, or in a pedal board ?? With mine I got Brad to change out the stomp switch for a toggle switch, and I added a leg clamp so I can attach the ED to the back leg of my Zum ... this works a treat and is easy to adjust, and turn and off, from your playing position.
![](https://bb.steelguitarforum.com/userpix1712/3706_Big_Red_ready_to_go_Norfolk_Island_2016_1.jpg) _________________ 14'Zumsteel Hybrid D10 9+9
08'Zumsteel Hybrid D10 9+9
94' Franklin Stereo D10 9+8
Telonics, Peterson, Steelers Choice, Benado, Lexicon, Red Dirt Cases. |
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George Redmon
From: Muskegon & Detroit Michigan.
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Posted 22 Jun 2018 1:59 pm
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Sorry, just came upon this post. I have Brads "Solar Flare" pedal, fantastic smooth singing type of overdrive. I also use it often for singing long slow fiddle bow effect on slow songs. Anyways.... i tried it both ways, before & after my volume pedal. I found before thr volume pedal i had to crank it wayyyyy down, and a little went a long ways.
After the volume pedal it works just dandy as well. The volume pedal does not affect the amount of overdrive i git, it only controls how loud i recieve the amount of overdrive i have the unit set at. Actually i s'pose, being the odd man out here, but i prefer it after the volume pedal.
Incidently i have mine laid out like this:
Guitar + Match~Bro + Wah Pedal + Hilton Volume Pedal + Ohmless Yara Compressor + Solar Flare + Subdecay Flanger + Keeley Nevtrino Envelope Pedal + Big Joe Phaser Pedal + Hilton Legend Delay.
Simple to hookup, i am most generally done tuning, and doing a sound check before our guitar player is. |
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Len Amaral
From: Rehoboth,MA 02769
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Posted 23 Jun 2018 8:38 am
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I have the Earth Drive and the Solar Flare. I retired all my overdrive, fuzz and distortion pedals after using these pedals. Nothing comes close to the vibe the ED & SF for transparent sonic grit. |
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