Jagwire Strings

Ricky Hagan · From: Elm City N.C. U.S.A.

I don't want to start a war I'm just asking.What makes Jagwire Strings beter than other brands.I'v always used george L's with no problems.I'v not tried Jagwire yet I was just wondering what makes them beter than others.

Jerry Heath · From: Harrah, Oklahoma, USA

Ricky,

IMHO they have better tone and the 3rd string last longer than GL's.

Cody Johnson · From: Cleveland, TN

only a few string manufacturers, but numerous brands made. Many brands are the same strings with a different name. They are cheaper than GL's though. They have the most pro endorsers. Mine make me sound like tommy white. ha! Yeah that's it!

Ron Randall · From: Dallas, Texas, USA

Ricky,

To answer your question, I don't know. I changed to Nickel Jagwires from GHS pure nickels, I like the sound better. I am on my fourth set now. They sound better, and the tension feels better. Very subjective.

i hope this has helped.

Ron

Jack Stoner · From: Kansas City, MO

It's personal choice. I normally use George L's. I bought a set of Jagwires this year, mainly as a donation to the forum. I tried them and didn't like them. They seemed too "stiff" and I didn't like the tone. The 3rd String broke after one gig, too. They were taken off and back to George L's.

Buck Reid · From: Nashville,TN

I was turned on to Jagwire strings about 5 yrs ago. It's a personal thing,but i liked the overall feel right away. To me,the tension,sonic balance and tone were the best i've tried. I use a .012 for the high G# on the E9th tuning and have not had any breakage problems whatsoever. On top of all that,Danny and Regina are great folks who provide excellent customer service!

CrowBear Schmitt · From: Ariege, - PairO'knees, - France

i've used SITs, George L's, Cobra Coils, Ernie Balls, & GHS
most of them were jes fine fer what i gotta do
but ever since i tried Jagwires thanx to Danny & b0b
i jes have'nt used anything else !
(i dig them 11.5 & i should try 12s)

can't go wrong :
support our forum & get yer Jagwires right here : http://pedalsteelmusic.com/strings.html

[This message was edited by CrowBear Schmitt on 29 July 2005 at 04:26 AM.]

Delbert Aldredge · From: Willis, Texas, USA

Hi Rick, I tried'm.....went back to my "Ernie Ball"!

[This message was edited by Delbert Aldredge on 29 July 2005 at 05:04 AM.]

John Daugherty · From: Rolla, Missouri, USA

After breaking 3 Geo.L .011(in 5 minutes) trying to tune them up to pitch, I switched to Jagwire. Haven't broken any strings since. I suppose any brand could have a bad batch.

Ernest Cawby · From: Lake City, Florida, USA, R.I.P.

I change strings after about 3 weeks, Jagwire has lasted better thanany i have tried and the lower end seems better on my bud. Sit strings are good also but i like Jags better in stainless. Stainless seems you need better tec, to use them, they may make you play better.

ernie

Terry Sneed · From: Arkansas,

I switched to Jagwires over a year ago. I like the tone and I hadn't broken a 3rd string since I bought my Mullen from Hugh Jackson. That's been several months ago. I did break a few 017's but switched to 018's and solved that problem. Of course the guitar could have somethin to do with not breakin strings. Love my Mullen!!!

Terry

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Mullen D10 /8x5 / session 500rd/ American Strat Highway 1 model
steelin for my Lord

Jon Zimmerman · From: California, USA

String brands/mfg co.'s are all about as nebulous as stating gasoline brand preferences; differing changer mechanics, player style and attack, weather/barometer envoirns, all dis-CUSSED to death here I'm sure. Not to mention the machines and people who MAKE them day in/day out.. may be they've had a bad day, or liquid lunch before finishing up a 'batch'..how can you say anything certain except I PREFER--etc.?
--Just MHO. JZ

Jon Zimmerman · From: California, USA

--Did I mention raw material consistency??--left it out...but, hey, I agree with CrowBear--get whatEVER you like right here from the forum..a great place for fussy people. JZ ..(smilie should go here)

Jim Peters · From: St. Louis, Missouri, USA, R.I.P.

Tried Jags when I first joined forum,did not like them at all, they seemed dead to my ear. I use George L's. JP

Gord Cole · From: Toronto, Ontario, Canada

I tried Jagwire a couple of times and the .012 G# string didn't last any longer and I didn't like it's" biting "sound. I prefer George L.s.
Cheers Gord

Ricky Hagan · From: Elm City N.C. U.S.A.

Thanks everybody,I think I'll just stick with the george L's

Ricky Davis · From: Bertram, Texas USA

Gosh; the pickiest and greatest ears in the History of Pedal steel guitar(Lloyd Green; Tommy White; Doug Jernigan; Weldon Myrick..etc.) only use Jagwire Strings??? I would tend to think there is something wrong with my ears; if I didn't like what I heard from a string that only these great set of ears, Hear.
Yes everyone hears things differently; but a testiment like that for just those 4 players that play 4 different style pedal steels; is good enough for me.
Danny Hullihen; makes his strings with the upmost quality for US; steel guitar players, and if we knew how and why he does it; then he would not have the corner of the market on strings being made(I know if I owned a business; I wouldn't tell anyone my secrets..ha..); and to have the greatest ears to ever play the steel guitar to only use the Jagwire; is "what makes Jagwire more better/special of a string".
Ricky

Jack Stoner · From: Kansas City, MO

Many of the "name" steel guitarists have string endorsement contracts. I have a friend whose band has a string contract, he uses that brand since they are free, but prefers a different brand.

There's many other "name" steelers that do not use Jagwire's. They are not a bad string, just some of us prefer some other brand. And personally, who usese what brand has nothing to do with what brand I use.

Richard Sinkler · From: aka: Rusty Strings -- Missoula, Montana

Out of curiosity, does Danny actually manufacture the Jagwires, or does he just buy and re-package?

I have a set of Jagwires on my Carter right now and really don't know if they are better or worse than the GL's I had been using. They sound good.

The strings that I liked the most were the Lashley Extra Lively strings that Emmons used to have. Those strings seemed to play themselves. Sho~Bud strings weren't too shabby either.

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Carter D10 9p/10k, NV400

Ricky Davis · From: Bertram, Texas USA

Richard; Danny has all the specs and calculations that go into manufacturing the Jagwire string; from over a year of study from the greatest steel players in the business, of what they want and want to hear and have a string re-act to.
The mis-conception of a Jagwire endorsee of getting his Jagwire Strings for FREE is blown out of proportion; and is simply NOT true; and there are NO contracts with Jagwire Strings and its endorsees. I will admit that I actually have a contract with Ernie Ball as an Artist endorsee and have for over 10 years(yes that stuff does go on)> but when I tried the Jagwire string; that is the only one for me in Tone and consistancy and longevity in the Jagwire string; as why I play them exclusivly and not because I endorse them. This is the Fact with all Jagwire Endorsees; as they play the string because of its high quality that is catered and manufactured for the Steel guitarist; and certainly NOT because they get them for free and/or contracted to do so> simply not true in the Jagwire coorporation.
Not down talking other string names; but the question of who manufactures what?> An example is George L and Emmons Lashley strings are actually GHS guitar strings; re-packaged. The GHS and Ernie Ball string are of great quality; but will never live up to the consistancy of the Jagwire String, that is designed for the steel guitar and how it pulls a string. That is why Jagwire String has the most dedicated and greatest names in the steel guitar industry; to only play and endorse such a string, with no contracts to do so> Only because they like what they Hear.
Ricky

[This message was edited by Ricky Davis on 31 July 2005 at 11:08 AM.]

Webb Kline · From: Orangeville, PA

Ricky, bless you for your honesty. What a pro.

Larry Bell · From: Englewood, Florida

Ricky / Danny / whoever

It's easy to say the words, but the question remains unanswered.

I can't think of two guys whom I respect more than Danny Hullihen and Ricky Davis, BUT

Doyle Mitchell · From: Loraine, Texas

I decided to try a set of the Jags, so I ordred a set and put them on and went to a gig the next night.... so OK... the sound was good but in the first hour I broke the 3rd , the 5th , the 6th and 10th string..... wow whats up here???? It was the first strings to be broken on my new Rains.....did I get a bad set or what????? All I know is I wont be buying anymore, cant afford them at that rate.

Jack Stoner · From: Kansas City, MO

Several years ago (acutally about 8 or 9 years) I did a lot of research into strings for a PSGA Newsletter article.

At the time there were only a few companies, such as GHS and Squier, that actually make strings. GHS, for example, makes strings under their own brand name and OEM's strings for many other brands. However, not all brands that are OEM'd by GHS are the same grade string. George L's, for example, is a custom string and is not the same string that GHS sells for Steel Guitar under their own "Super Steels" brand.

Jagwire strings were previously owned by another company and I know those strings were manufactured for them. It' safe to say the present owner doesn't manufacture his own strings either. The original Sho-Bud strings were made by GHS and after George Lewis left Sho-Bud for GHS, they OEM'd their strings from Squier.

When I was in Nashville, in the early 70's, I knew of several that had endorsement contracts with Sho-Bud and Emmons and also got their strings at below "wholesale" or less. One that I personally know about was Gene O'Neil. Gene came into the store (Little Roy Wiggin's Music City store) and wanted to buy some Emmons string sets as he didn't have time to get them direct from Ron Lashley. We quoted him the same price we sold strings to all the "professionals" and Gene got mad and wanted us to sell him strings at the same price Ron Lashley sold them to him, which turned out was below the wholesale price that the store paid for them (Gene left without any strings).

Bottom line, many have their favorite brand of guitar and they have their favorite brand of strings. Then there are others that whatever is available is OK.

Richard Sinkler · From: aka: Rusty Strings -- Missoula, Montana

I wonder how much of our preference for a string brand is based on assumption and illusion? I know when I was buying Sho~Bud and Emmons brand strings, I was probably under the assumption that they were manufactured differently for the PSG than they were the guitar. These companies give us the illusion of some special properties or manufacturing process that makes them different from regular strings.

I do know that I hear differences in the different brands and I assume this is due to quality of the manufacturing process and maybe the difference in the quality of the steel.

When I had my ZB guitars, I found that If I used Ernie Ball strings, I could hardly ever get the 3rd string to pitch without it breaking. I would buy Fender or Gibson singles and use them as my 3rd with great results. I also noticed they sounded better than the rest of the strings, which were Ernie Ball.

So, how much of this is in our mind??

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Carter D10 9p/10k, NV400

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